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7 years ago #1
welsby
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I have a Marble angel fish, the body is the size of the palm of my hand, this morning i put the tank light on to find the angel lying on its side at the bottom of the tank, as soon as i lifted the lid to feed the fish he swam to the top to eat the food. He has been swimming around ever since, being as dominant as he always is to the other fish, I have never seen him do this before. I immediatly did a water change just in case. Can anyone tell me if this is common with angel fish.

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7 years ago #2
johnarthur
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I haven't seen a healthy angelfish do that. How old is he? The maximum life expectancy of an angelfish is, I've read, about eight years. If you recently introduced new fish or plants into the aquarium, you may have introduced a disease or parasite. I hope it's something temporary; if he keeps acting hungry, that may be the case. The partial water change was probably one of the best things you could do. You might also raise the water temperature a couple of degrees to about 84. Some people raise the temperature even higher. Some people also use lots of commercial remedies, but it's so easy to over medicate that sometimes the best thing you can do is nothing. Angelfish do not respond well to rapid changes in their environment. Good luck, and keep us posted.

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7 years ago #3
welsby
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Thank you for your reply. I don't know how old he is we have had him for about 6 months but he is big, no new fish or plants within 2 months. I feed them twice a day, I alternate with blood worm one day and flake and wafers (wafers for the clown loaches)the next day. The temperature sits around 29c. Yesterday as soon as I saw him on the bottom I did a 40% water change and treated the water with a herbal treatment called
melafix. You probably will say 40% is to much but I have alway done this once a week for yrs. Today I have just switch the light on the tank and he is swimming around as normal, its beyond me. anyway I am going to take a water sample in to my local shop this morning to have a complete test, we will see what happens.
thanks again

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7 years ago #4
johnarthur
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I usually do smaller water changes, but to each his own. It all depends on the biological load your aquarium is handling.

Some people have had trouble feeding blood worms, because they MAY contain parasites. I feed frozen blood worms once in a while and have never had a problem with Hikari brands. Most aquarium fish seem to like brine shrimp, and it's sort of the old standard in the aquarium hobby, at least on this side of the pond. Most evenings, I feed frozen brine shrimp and make sure it is well thawed. Live food is another thing entirely; you have to be very careful of the source.

At any rate, I'm glad your angelfish is doing better. Maybe he just ate something that didn't agree with him.

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7 years ago #5
welsby
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Hi, Just an update on my Angel fish, it has now been 3 weeks since he was lying on the bottom of the tank, he has been ok ever since, he must of felt a little lazy that morning. Anyway thank you for your response.

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7 years ago #6
johnarthur
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Thanks for keeping us updated, and for participating in this forum. Maybe the angelfish accidentally ate a hunk of gravel or a pretty piece of plastic plant. Or maybe he stopped by the Fish Tank Bottom Water Cootie Bar and had too many duckweed dollops. At any rate, I'm glad he recovered from the apparent over indulgence, because those were some pretty bad symptoms.

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7 years ago #7
angela_brown
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John!

You're so freaking funny, I just love you!

Duckweed Dollops! I have had a rough day, and I'm sunburned and in a foul mood, and I just busted up laughing!

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7 years ago #8
johnarthur
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Glad you enjoyed my clumsy attempt to add a little humus to the situation.

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5 years ago #9
Trevor
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My sister had one and it did the same thind. A guy at pets mart said they do that when they shed their to fin and it causes them to swim side ways till it heals back then it will swim like normal.

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5 years ago #10
person
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do know why angel fish do this?

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5 years ago #11
johnarthur
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Healthy angelfish do not molt or shed body parts. Only sick ones lose their fins unless a nocturnal pleco is eating them (they do that). Sick fish are usually the result of sick aquarium water, and that usually means ammonia and/or nitrite that occurs in tanks that have not completed their nitrogen cycle or have been fouled by over feeding.

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5 years ago #12
mystic_goldfish87
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It sounds like it's dying, angle fish don't shed only crustatians snakes and bugs do that. try poking it to see if you can get him moving, I've found that by waking fish up when their half dead sometimes helps them perk up and they're ussually fine after that... unless they're too far gone.

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5 years ago #13
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Angelfish can be delicate and not easy to cure once they get sick. First, check water quality, then gradually raise the temperature to 82. Other species may not be comfortable in the warm water, but it's ideal for angelfish.

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4 years ago #14
jay jay
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can u help me please ,,my angel is falling to the bottom of the tank and other fish are chasing him should i partissition him off from the other fish (i have put the temp up like you said

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4 years ago #15
johnarthur
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First, check the aquarium water for ammonia and nitrite. Both should measure zero, because they are toxic to fish. They're usually the result of over feeding, over crowding, or too few partial water changes. The display aquariums in pet shops are usually very over crowded and should not be used as a standard for populating your aquarium. How large is the aquarium, and how many and what kind of fish does it house? Do you ever feed the fish more than they eat in a couple of minutes? What temperature is the aquarium water? Angelfish prefer 80 to 82F.

The above are some of the most common things associated with fish diseases and parasites. The easiest and maybe the best treatment is a series of partial water changes. You may want to try 30 percent the first day and 20 percent the next few days. Be sure to use a good water conditioner, and get the replacement water close to the temperature of the original aquarium water.

Netting the angelfish and confining him to a small area could be stressful. A divider to isolate the other fish may help if it can really keep tankmates separated.

If you can answer some of the above questions, we may be able to provide more help.

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4 years ago #16
LL
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HI Everyone. I have a white angel with black stripes. Couldnt sleep and found it lying very close to the bottom of the tank, kinda side ways. In the time it has taken me to read this forum. He/she not sure which - has woken up and seems to be swimming normally. Altho alot closer to the bottom rather than the top of the tank. Do angelfish perhaps sleep this way??
Or coould it be a dominance issue. This white n black was introduced about 2/3 yrs after a black angel with some silver body and orange head had total run of the tank. The black one kinda bosses the white one. Think I must have two male/females or incompatible. It's not ugly fighting - it just seems the black is threatened by the white which obviously started out smaller and is now practically the same size. The white one was bought in July 2010. Would have described the black angel as quite passive and calm prior to this.
ANY light that could be shed on this situation would be appreciated.
tanx in advance

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4 years ago #17
mjrkiller308
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the angels will sleep almost laying down on the bottom almos all of mine do. um but if its swimming with little or no control and floating around or being pushed around by current then it may have swim bladder disease. is i doing these things as well. how big is your tank and **** often do you do water changes and what are your water perameters(nitrate nitrite and ammonia levels)

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4 years ago #18
mystic_goldfish87
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lol its a lil late for this isnt it. i wonder what happened to this angel. i posted on this over a year ago and funny i still remember it. lol

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4 years ago #19
LL
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HI CHAmp and Gold boldr.
Angel fine 2day,
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It was as u say champ asleep. TANX for POsting and getting bak to me. It appears i worried prematurely.

Gold bolder I would guess that angel s possibly still alive as it said above they live for 8 yrs. They r hardy also so ideal for people as clueless as I am sometimes.
Best Regards,
LL

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4 years ago #20
ll
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UH oh now my black angel is hiding - that is not good hope he doesnt die..

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3 years ago #21
amyj
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Hey I have an angelfish who is about the size of the palm of the average hand, he is absolutely beautiful and rules my tank. I recently did a water change and cleaned the filter sponges, as the instructions read, cleaning them in water taken from the tank, so not to damage the 'good' bacteria. Since then this fish has been sitting very close to the bottom of the tank so much so his bottom fin has now degraded! Tonight when I went to switch off the light he was laying completely flat on the bottom, he does come up to feed but not as often and as vigorously as normal. What is wrong with my pride and joy?!

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3 years ago #22
Jase
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First things first, do a complete water test on all water parameters,

ph, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.

Are any of those readings elevated at all? Post your readings if you can, you ideally want to see no ammonia and no nitrite, but its worth also checking there has been no PH crash, or still high nitrates that you've not accounted for.

Angel fish stress easy when water parameters change even a little, so this i think may be the problem... however the change in eating habits is also a concern and may also be a sign of the stress.

Any other tank mates in with this fish? you say he rules the tank, but who are his minions?

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3 years ago #23
amyj
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Hey I have an angelfish who is about the size of the palm of the average hand, he is absolutely beautiful and rules my tank. I recently did a water change and cleaned the filter sponges, as the instructions read, cleaning them in water taken from the tank, so not to damage the 'good' bacteria. Since then this fish has been sitting very close to the bottom of the tank so much so his bottom fin has now degraded! Tonight when I went to switch off the light he was laying completely flat on the bottom, he does come up to feed but not as often and as vigorously as normal. What is wrong with my pride and joy?!

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3 years ago #24
Heindre
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Hi

I had the worst day today, i lost all 4 Angel fish i had and 4 columbian tetra. I added 6 fish about 2 weeks ago and all was fine, and this morning my fish started dying one by one. I went to the pet store and they said i had too much salt in, so i did a full water change, new gravel and am now running the tank with no fish in it.

I however have moved my fish to a hospital tank and am keeping a watchful eye on them. How long will the "new" tank have to run for?

Thanks

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3 years ago #25
johnarthur
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Angelfish are especially sensitive to nitrogen compounds and sudden changes in water parameters. Partial water changes of about 25 percent each week or two should control nitrogen compounds while not producing quick changes in water parameters. Angelfish also prefer a water temperature of about 80 to 82 degrees Fahrenheit, and they need about ten gallons of aquarium capacity per adult.

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3 years ago #26
thomas McMichael
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My fish has a fter a few days began to stay around the heather module and was repetadly nudged by a more active angel fish. At present it is laying on its side, still breathing and fins are still active, but it is still on its side at the bottom of the tank.

What could be wrong with it.

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3 years ago #27
sebrina
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My angle fish is doing the same thing at the bottom of the tank on his side but will come up and eat. I have a black one but that one dont do that.

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3 years ago #28
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If you test the water, you will probably detect toxic ammonia or nitrite. Either compound, even in low concentrations, will make the angelfish uncomfortable and vulnerable to diseases and parasites.

To correct the problem, the aquarium needs a working nitrogen cycle and weekly, partial water changes. More frequent partial water changes may be necessary for the first week or two.

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3 years ago #29
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The exact same thing happened with my angelfish. Shortly after we bought her, she did that, but she didn't get up, and eventually, she died.

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3 years ago #30
saltwater ken
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my half black angel is about 11 years old and mean had to remove him from my tank to night killing all the new fish i put in the tank my tank is a 150 gallon it has a 45 gallon refugium tank has been running for around20 years i have around 400 lbs of live rock thank you just a little info

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