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6 years ago #1
cherryquf
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hi, i've had my betta for 3 weeks.
i got it from walmart, so i'm guessing it wasn't treated very well.
i believe i have diseased fish, because it won't eat eventho the water temp is about 75, and i dechlorate the water when i change it once a week (50% change). i want to buy it a aquarium salt, but my mom already doesn't like how i spent $30 on $3 fish...

currently, it is in one gallon tank with a plant that is strangely decaying (probably because i never bought plant food).
my betta is pretty active, but sometimes it does its spastic moves, and move up and down real fast...sometimes bumping into the gravel.
i know for sure that it doesn't have ick or fungus infection. my betta is dark colored, but it's recovering its fins (they were in really bad condition when i bought it.)

idk...it looks healty, but just won't eat.
this is really frustrating.
i already have tried feeding it wardley's betta food (pallet), and Bettamin tropical medly (flake and some freeze dried shirmp)

can anyone suggust anything that i could do without purchasing sort of expensive equipment?
if you are just gonna say 'nothing', just don't bother answering.
else, thankyou very much for reading this long thing, and i really could use some advice.

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6 years ago #2
johnarthur
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Welcome to our forum. First of all, Bettas don't eat very much, especially right after you move them. Try some frozen blood worms, only feed him just a little bit. He can go for at least a week without eating, and his tummy is about the size of his eye. You can use a turkey baster to clean up what he doesn't eat in a couple of minutes. It's also good to have a small filter or aerator in the aquarium.

When you do the weekly water changes, try changing only 25 percent of the water. Replace it with water of about the same temperature, and use a good water conditioner. I hope some of this helps. Please keep us posted, and we will not ignore you.

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6 years ago #3
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PS: You may also want to click on some of the related topics at the bottom of this post.

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6 years ago #4
animefan93
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for me i would say like 50-100% water changes each week or even twice a week with that small of a tank for him....the weird movements are him trying to scratch thing off most likely parasites most store bettas have them but it doesnt really show untill they get into cleaner water, i would get mads or something for him....i would not get salt in my opinion salt makes it worse and it kills there fins

do you have a picture of him?

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6 years ago #5
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Animefan is one of our expert Betta keepers, so her advice is better than mine. My concern about the large water changes was a too rapid change in water parameters. In any case, a larger tank would be better. Ten gallon glass aquariums are not expensive an would give the Betta more room as well as better water quality. The other day, I was in PETCO; they had a six or eight gallon, book shelf aquarium kit for about 30 dollars.

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6 years ago #6
hey thanks!!
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just today, i saw it eat the softened end of the water plant that i put it.
i'm not sure why it likes that rotting thing over good-smelling betta fish food, but he's really improving his fins; they were clumped together when i bought him, but now, it is getting wider and longer, too.

so i guess what i'll try to do is get a bigger tank (not now tho, cuz i don't have $ and i don't work), and then do frequent water change, like, 25% at a time. it's looking better! thanks again!

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6 years ago #7
lookoutworld
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Be careful one of my recent studies i did showed that that may be fatal.... i had a betta in a small bowl for 8 years then i moved him into the bigger tank and he died in two weeks

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6 years ago #8
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Clamped fins are a sure sign that the fish is in distress and may have a disease or parasite.

As for the small aquarium, the small water volume means that it can easily be overwhelmed by a small amount of waste material. Greater water volume dilutes any toxins. Even a ten gallon tank is fairly small, so you don't want to over populate it. If it's heavily planted, it should be OK for a Betta. I once had one in a 55 gallon aquarium, and he didn't do well.

Right now, the PETCO on-line store has a sale on small, acrylic aquariums. Their 2.5 gallon tank has an under gravel filter, a small air pump, a plastic hood, and a light. The price is about $30. They're not as cheap as a yard sale aquarium, but they're appropriate for a Betta and will fit anywhere.

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6 years ago #9
angela_brown
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Welcome to the forum!

Hope your betta continues to improve!

I love bettas... I think they're... Gorgeous!

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6 years ago #10
LB
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I have a Betta, I have had him over a year and up untill a few months ago he was very active and almost friendly, but lately he has hardly moved from the bottom of his tank and rarely eats. when he does move it is as if he can't find the energy to swim and only makes it a little ways before falling to the bottom of the tank. Nothing in his tank has changed over the last 8 months so I figure he is just getting old. Is he dieing or does it sound like something else?

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6 years ago #11
animefan93
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how often do you change the water and what size is the tank or bowl? he may just be getting old

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6 years ago #12
angela_brown
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Welcome to the forum!

A little more info would be helpful.

Anime is the resident betta expert, so she can probablyhelp you if there's help to be hd!

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6 years ago #13
lb
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the tank is one liter two at most. I'm not sure because it is one my husband has had for a while. Its is quite small. I used to change the water like once a month, but I started doing more and more often as he because less active because I figured the water was probably too dity and it was bothering him. Also when I first got him there wasn't anything in his bowl, just water. But then I put him in the plastice tank he is in now and it has rocks and a plastice plant so the dirt colects in the rocks. I probably change him twice a week but it doesn't make any difference. When I put him back he just sinks to the bottom and lays there. I do know he his alive because if I tap the tank he wiggles.

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6 years ago #14
animefan93
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i would say hes going to die soon and for that small of a tank i would change the water like once a week at the least or more how do his fins look?

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6 years ago #15
angela_brown
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That's not a good sign.

Most times we recommend not changing all the water... Or if you do change all the water, put the fish and some of the old water in a CLEAN bucket (like brand new and rinsed out) Then clean the tank and drip the new water into the bucket using the drip acclimation method (search the blog) Then you can just dump the bucket and fish back into the tank.

Are his fins clamped down? Or do they have fungus growing on the ends?

Good Luck with your fish!

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6 years ago #16
cherryquf
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um, i don't really know how old he is, but since i got him from a corner of walmart, i'm guessing he's pretty old...like a year perhaps? he's like a inch and a half long without the tail. i change his water 50% 2times a week. now, he kinda eats brine shirmps. but i'm so tired of him not eating. i'm giving him to a friend who had betta for 2 years. i think he'll do better with her.

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6 years ago #17
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I think the biggest problem is the small aquarium. Even a little bit of the wrong thing in a small water volume will have a large effect. A fish cannot stay healthy in an unhealthy environment. If you can afford a larger tank (at least 2.5 gallons), you can probably keep the Betta healthy. Most aquarium fish are easy to care for once you have the right setup. I hope you give the aquarium hobby another chance; if you give the Betta to your friend, tell her to try feeding a little bit of frozen (well thawed) blood worms.

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6 years ago #18
cherryquf
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he's fin condition is actually improving.
when i first got him, he had clamped fins with red thingy at the end, but that's gone now, and the color got darker (at first he was PALE), and ...i think the fins got longer, too..yea, i'm pretty sure that it did. Also, he spreads the fin more than he used to.
the only problem is that he doesn't eat the food that i give him. he prefers rotten water plants and shrimps. he's weird.
i'll try to get a picture of him, but he's going away soon anyways. i already got a new male betta who eats quite well....

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6 years ago #19
cherryquf
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oh, don't worry. i have a new one that's healthy...this one eats well. and as soon as i have chance, i'm gonna buy a 10 gallon. i found that it only costs about $12. if not, i'll get a 3 gallon for $10. but for now, it'll have to wait cuz my report card is coming soon....*shudder* and i can't do anything if my mom's not happy.

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6 years ago #20
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Tell your mom that some old coot in Phoenix said that aquarium keeping is very educational, especially if you get more fish tanks. Tell her you will need to do some research and experimentation, both of which will enhance your ability to learn.

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6 years ago #21
cherryquf
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lol thanks for the advice! i'll try..hopefuly she buys it. by the way, how much am i supposed to feed bettas? i've heard a lot of diffenet opnions about it. And would you know if fish's pee is acidic or not? i've been trying to figure this out for a WHILE.

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6 years ago #22
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The tummy of a Betta is about the same size as his eye, so they don't eat much. The fact that Bettas are sold in glorified shot glasses leads people to think they can thrive in dirty water. They can't. Wild Bettas live in small, tropical streams and in rice patties (not the food but the swamp). They use their labyrinth gland to breathe ambient air, but they still need their gills to take in additional oxygen from the water. All of the digestive and respiratory byproducts generated by a fish contain toxic ammonia, as do uneaten food and decayed plants. Unlike a stream or rice patty, an aquarium does not have a constant flow of fresh water to remove toxins. That's why partial water changes are so important, especially so in small aquariums.

Is it a rice patty or a rice Patricia??

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6 years ago #23
cherryquf
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hi remember me from years ago?

so i finally purchased 5 gallon tank, and you said that mininum size of a betta was 2.5, so i did some math and bought another female.
so in the 5 gallon tank, i have two females and 3 minnows (i just threw them in there), but the dark blue female bullys pink female.
do i just leave them alone?

or put somthing in?

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6 years ago #24
animefan93
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thats still to small for all those fish...that at LEAST should be a 15 gallon tank...and you would need 5+ for the females most likely not to fight some can be really docile and others really aggressive so its best to have there anger spread out between a large group of them then just 2 and a 5 gallon would still be hard to control its levels even with just one fish... just because it should be 2.5 AT MINIMUM for ONE fish doesnt mean for a 5 gallon you need and should buy a anougher.

im sorry if im sounding mean or harsh but people should do research before buying any fish...

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6 years ago #25
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I remember that my betta would be so unhappy that I was moving him to change his water, that his fins would always be so clear and then as soon as he was in his water for a while and I guess stopped being unhappy, his color would come back, he was very expressive about his feelings.

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6 years ago #26
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lol i did the same think with my 2 female bettas, they fought, so when i got a 20 gallon i put them both in with like 5 different ohter type of fish and there fine, i recomend if you have a bigger tank put them all in there

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6 years ago #27
Kaci
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Hi, I am a new betta owner. I had my betta at home at first. He did fine, ate good, very active. I have had him at my work place for almost a week not, when I brought him in, he would try to eat his food, get it in his mouth and you could see him "chewing" but then it comes back out. I haven't seen him keep anything down. What can I do to help?

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6 years ago #28
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Bettas don't eat very much, and over feeding adds toxic ammonia to the water, which in turn decreases their appetite. They're sold in very small containers, but to be healthy they need a two or three gallon aquarium equipped with a filter. To provide the Betta with a healthy environment, you can remove uneaten food with a turkey baster and change part of the water every week.

By the way, you can be a member of this forum for free, and nobody will try to sell you stuff.

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5 years ago #29
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I just got my betta fish yesterday from the dollar store (I know not a good place to buy a fish but I wanted to save him). Anyways the day I got him he was fine and ate the few of the pellets I gave him. Then I transfered him in to what I think is a half gallon tank. Now it seems like he can't swallow his pellets because everytime I give him one he tries to eat it and seems to chew but spits it outand then tries to eat it again but again spits it out! This cycle just goes on and on. I feel really bad because he really liked to eat (at least yesterday he did) and now he is always lokking at me as if he wants me to give him more food but every time I do he does the same thing. What do I do? i really want to help the little guy.

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5 years ago #30
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Seems like your fish may be experiencing some shock there with that move to the new tank. You dont need to feed a betta everyday so just wait a couple days and try again. If he does the same thing try different types of betta food. There are other ones besides pellets you can try.

Hope that helps.

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