Bubbles, Parasites, and Snails...Oh My!

6 years ago #1
Andrea
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Yesterday I went to a LFS, that wasn't so local, and I bought a planted driftwood piece. Very nice I would say.

I also bought some ludwigia repens, another nice plant.

Anyway, I brought them home, rinsed and added them to my aquarium. In doing so I somewhat disturbed... okay a lot disturbed the gravel and anything that had settled in it. Thankfully there are no fish in it at the moment. Well the water was somewhat murky for a bit.

As everything settled and it began to clear, i noticed lots of tiny bubbles on the water starting to form. Not ever seeing this before and reading somewhere that this isn't normal, and finding some information about it...

I decided to rinse out my filter with dechlorinated water. Not my BioFilter, the blue charcoal filled filter. And did a 10% or so water change...Okay I probably need more..but I wanted to consult the experts first...
So I rinsed this in a large white bowl... It was filled with some gravel dust and plant debris and something else...

In this bowl after I rinsed the filter I saw something moving! Didn't look normal to me. It was a worm like creature darting across the water in this bowl. I tried to catch it with a spoon, but it was too fast. I finally caught it in a fish net.

Its was tiny I'd say no more than an eight of an inch. Needless to say I thought this was a little weird and creepy. So I looked online... (What would i do with out the internet)... and I found some info on parasitic worms... I hope that this would not be such.

From the same fish store plants I have acquired snails, and yet another "thing."

How do I know if its a parasite. And if it is I can't put my fish in that water!? I only saw it because i decided to rise the filter in a bowl, otherwise i wouldn't have know about it... What do i do about this thing? And what about the bubbles? The snails I can deal with, but wormy little things...No.

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6 years ago #2
johnarthur
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The driftwood probably lost some water when it was transported and maybe gained a little bit of air, which subsequently bubbled. The critter you accidentally imported from the aquarium shop is probably not dangerous and may even be good fish food. Worms are usually the result of over feeding. Were there fish in the aquarium that originally housed the driftwood, and were they healthy?

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6 years ago #3
Andrea
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Yes fish were housed with the plants... and healthy? That would have been a good question for me to ask. But they looked okay.

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6 years ago #4
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If aquarium shop fish are not healthy, they usually have clamped fins or white spots, or they're hanging around the water surface gasping for air.

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6 years ago #5
Andrea
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I actually saw only one fish with their plants yesterday. It was a female betta and she looked well to my untrained eyes. They also house their Mystery Snails that are for sale with these plants as well.

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6 years ago #6
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I doubt you will have problems with the critters.

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6 years ago #7
Megham
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I have white worms in some of my tanks. They just eat decaying matter and make good fish food. I still find them disturbing though.

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6 years ago #8
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got a picture of it? well it probally is a white worm. hmm wonder if there is anymore growing around in there? Well looking around online i find that most everyone says that Fish love the taste of white worms and a word of Caution, Bettas gorge themselves and can rupture their bellies on them. is from what people say. Hope that helps.

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6 years ago #9
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I read that microscopic critters live on some plants and provide excellent live food for small fry.

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6 years ago #10
Andrea
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I don't have a picture unfortunately... cause I flushed it! I didn't know what it was and I didn't want to take any chances... But all I can say is that I am pretty sure it didn't look white. But then again i did catch it with a green net, so it did look sorta green... almost a lime green, and it was so small that i couldn't tell if it was segmented or what... all i know is that it moved... and in the water it moved fast.

But I haven't seen anymore in the tank and this was one that I rinsed out of the filter.

But as for the the other critters attained... I think they will be okay.

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6 years ago #11
vashe
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hmm look like this by chance? If so its a fish leech. I found it on a fish i caught a few weeks back. it was hanging on its gill plate.

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6 years ago #12
Andrea
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Hmmm.... and ewww! Not sure if it was that... what you found is much bigger than what i saw... what i saw was only 1/8th of an inch... and moved rather quickly, and wasn't attached to a fish... but thanks for sharing... i'll be keeping a look out for that not so nice looking thing.... but looking twice...it could have been... maybe just smaller... ???

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6 years ago #13
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If the worm was not attached to a fish, it's probably not a parasite.

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6 years ago #14
Andrea
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well i guess i wouldn't have seen it on a fish being that their aren't fish in this aquarium yet. but not worries... i guess... its not there anymore...

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6 years ago #15
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Okay... So I found another "creature" I tried taking a pic but it was too small to allow the cameras we have here to focus and of course i let my parent borrow my nice camera that could have taken the shot.

And how, this creature I have found, I do not believe it to be a worm at all.

It is white, almost clear, and it has legs. I found a bigger one. It has a head and eyes and lots of legs. I thought maybe it was a brine shrimp or a water flea, but I can't find a pic online that looks exactly like what I have... But it does resemble a shrimp to me, except tiny of course. If I manage to take a pic, or find one online, i'll update.

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6 years ago #16
Andrea
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Okay not a water flea... but still not sure what... hmmm...

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6 years ago #17
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Andrea wrote:

It is white, almost clear, and it has legs. I found a bigger one. It has a head and eyes and lots of legs. I thought maybe it was a brine shrimp or a water flea, but I can't find a pic online that looks exactly like what I have... But it does resemble a shrimp to me, except tiny of course. If I manage to take a pic, or find one online, i'll update.


hmm sounds to me like that piece of driftwood came with alot of nice tank stuff for you and i mean that in a good way. more then likely some kind of copepod guess u can say its plankton . they will usually die off on there own. usually fish would eat it. not sure on a betta diet but its basically free fish food. lol Your doing a fishless cycle in your tank so your not cleaning the water and they are just liveing it up from it. They are harmless and with water changes and a gravel cleaning should fix the problem over time.

hope that helps you
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6 years ago #18
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That is what I figured... I thought it funny when these creatures usually come about due to overfeeding... The only thing I was overfeeding was the tank itself... Over the past few days since the cycle is complete...
Ammonia- 0ppm
Nitrites- 0ppm
Nitrates-10-15ppm( after a water change)
I've been trying to clean it up. Vacuum the gravel for some of the excess muck... and this is how i'm finding all these wonderful(slight sarcasm)things.

So the tank looks pretty well now... Expect I was gazing dreamily into my aquarium this morning and as I was pondering my day... I did see a real "worm" this time. At first I thought it was just snail sludge left behind, but my snails don't leave a trail. So I looked a little closer, I mean this thing was almost as thin as a hair and moving...well like a "worm"... and I suppose it was white... perhaps this was one of those white worms you all were referring to? Oh well..

To day I am going to pick up a few more supplies to prepare for a drip acclimation for my Betta into his new home... Wish me luck!

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6 years ago #19
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You're doing things right, so you don't need luck, but good luck anyhow.

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6 years ago #20
chippie
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i found a snail like creature in my tank i an kinda nervous because im new to the whole pet fish thing and if its can help my tank i want to keep it but if not i dont know what to do

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6 years ago #21
BarptProductions
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keep it, there is really notin wrong w/ snails, xcept dey multiply fast

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6 years ago #22
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Hello, (45 years plus experience and background biochemistry, pre vet/zoological/oceanographic sciences.) I came across this searching for something else and will post even though older thread for future reference.

First, most all parasites are often hard to see (not all esp during latter stages), but your description that it was moving so fast that you it was hard to catch, and large enough to be seen as well suggest to me that it is likely some sort of insect larvae (but hard to say without a better description and photo.)

Most all parasites are lethal, as well as insect larvae... so one should quaranteen plants not only for snails (vectors of parasites) and eggs but also for such unknnown creatures. Alum can be used as it is not toxic to most plants. (pickling compound).


(I have many books on these various species and online sources but this is an old thread and serious research can be done online these days - go to government fisheries sites, so on for best sources.)

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6 years ago #23
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