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3 years ago#1
guppylover
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I know that bettas don't need filters but what other fish don't need filters?

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3 years ago#2
guppylover
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does any one have an answer.

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3 years ago#3
Rohan
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EVERY fish needs a filter my friend

This is a wrong notion that Betta's don't need filter as they are labyrinth fish.

Imagine would you be able to live in a room without a toilet or bathroom?

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3 years ago#4
guppylover
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yes I would be able to live I'd just go on the floor

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3 years ago#5
Rohan
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okay but what will happen in one week?

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3 years ago#6
guppylover
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my house would be very smelly. I was told many times that bettas didn't need filters.

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3 years ago#7
Rohan
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More than smell you will have disease and be unhealthy.
Whoever told you this lacks in knowledge.Even when i was a beginner i also had this idea but its totally wrong.Like other fishes betta's too need filter for the same reason as other fish needs a filter. Am i able to make this clear now?

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3 years ago#8
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Some fish can survive in terrible conditions, but that is far from the objective of most aquarists. As many of us have learned the hard way, aquarium fish are healthier and more attractive in a well equipped aquarium with correct water parameters.

Since male bettas are poor swimmers, they struggle in turbulent water. Thus, filter flow should be very gentle.

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3 years ago#9
Rohan
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Yes as John told i you want to have a HEALTHY fish a filter is must.For betta go for a low powered filter like John suggested

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3 years ago#10
guppylover
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Petsmart said that they didn't need filters

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3 years ago#11
Rohan
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That's really sad to hear such from a well known franchise like Petsmart

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3 years ago#12
mjrkiller308
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well know yes my friend but well educated in their department thats another story they just hire the joe schmoes to fill an employee slot. most of them couldnt tell you the diff between a tetra or a danio. i h8t corp. businisses like them i stay with the ma and pa shops. they have better prices and way healthier fish.

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3 years ago#13
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3 years ago#14
Jimmeh
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guppylover wrote:
my house would be very smelly. I was told many times that bettas didn't need filters.


MGF Betta's can live with out a filter, yes but it requires very strict cleaning %50 water changes once per week, betta breeders who need to house large amounts do this out of passion,

but if you told average joe to do this they would not, hence even my show betta's live in tanks with filters (all be it set at minimum)
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3 years ago#15
Jimmeh
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mjrkiller308 wrote:
well know yes my friend but well educated in their department thats another story they just hire the joe schmoes to fill an employee slot. most of them couldnt tell you the diff between a tetra or a danio. i h8t corp. businisses like them i stay with the ma and pa shops. they have better prices and way healthier fish.


well said,

lol buddy I see your tank numbers are on the rise again
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3 years ago#16
mjrkiller308
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thanks oh i havent changed that yet thanks for the reminder i just got back on the net a few days ago i was gone for like 5-6 months. i will update in a min my friend.

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3 years ago#17
samantha
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I totlally disagree with this statement. Beta fish and goldfish will do just fine without a filter. I once had a beta fish whose bowl i cleaned once a week. Most betta fish live about 2 years this betta lived 4.

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3 years ago#18
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The first aquarium I ever saw had a very few guppies, lots of live plants and no filter or light. That was in the 1940s.

These days fish tend to get get over fed, aquariums are more crowded, they do not all have live plants, and the fish tank needs a way to keep the water circulating and oxygenated. A filter and regular partial water changes usually take care of such things.

Complete water changes involve netting the fish and are very likely to cause sudden changes in water parameters. Both things are very stressful for the fish.

Bettas have a labyrinth organ that allows them to take oxygen from the air. This supplies part of their oxygen needs, and their gills supply the rest. Under most circumstances, they need both to survive.

Neither a betta nor a goldfish can survive long in stagnant water containing toxic nitrogen compounds, which are produced by the fish and the food they eat. That's why filters and partial water changes are important for most aquarists.

Opposing opinions are very informative and always welcome here.

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3 years ago#19
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A 1900 edition of Hugo Mulertt book
The goldfish and its systematic culture; a thorough guide for goldfish keeping and goldfish breeding in the house and out-of-doors, the construction and care of the parlor aquarium and ponds for breeding that covers how they build and maintained aquarium before there was a Petsmart or any thing else as far as the aquarium hobby was concerned. No filter, heater, aquariums or for that matter plants and fish for sale you had to do it all from the very beginning.

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3 years ago#20
RayJay88
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When i was little i had a wizard holding a bowl it was about half a gallon and if i didnt clean it once maybe twice a week you couldnt even see the betta.Then i really didnt care but now since im grown i love my fish.So i recomend you use some kind of filtration for the little guys.I have a male betta i call King Louie and he lives in a 55 gallon tank very well filtered. i hope this helps.

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2 years ago#21
lauwiliwilinukunuk uoioi
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Filtration is unnecessary. Because betas are resilient enough to survive without it. You truly don't know what you are talking about. -marine biologist studied in Ichthyology

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2 years ago#22
Shannon
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They may not need it but filtration sure does seem a courtesy!!

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2 years ago#23
MiMI
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Yeah, Petsmart told me the same thing...but I knew they were full of Sh!@...All fish do need filters! That would be sad if they didn't have one.

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2 years ago#24
pamk59
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yea but look what they keep their bettas in small containers.

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2 years ago#25
Sydney
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I'm positive bettas don't need a filter I have had bettas without a filter actually i never use a filter when i've had a betta. I have one going on 3 years right now.

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2 years ago#26
ya
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um... betta fish naturally live in murky water and they prefer still water aka no filter

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2 years ago#27
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Fish can survive in all sorts of awful conditions, but that does not mean they will be healthy or happy. An aquarium is a closed system with a very limited amount of water.

To provide a good environment for its residents, the aquarium heeds outside help in the form of filters, heaters, partial water changes, sensible feeding, monitoring, TLC and all the other stuff that makes aquarium keeping fun for us. Neglect is not one of those things.

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2 years ago#28
Guest
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Tadpoles don't need a filter tho ay? Just that oxygen plant and the chlorine removed from the water, right?

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2 years ago#29
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All living creatures produce waste. With aquatic creatures, the primary waste product is ammonia, a toxin. In an aquarium with no filter and no maintenance, ammonia will build to ever higher concentrations and will eventually poison the water plus everything living in it.

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2 years ago#30
Grace
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Actually they don't need filters, yes the cage will get nasty, that is why you clean the cage every couple of days or so. Just like a guinea pig or hamster.

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