HELP PLEASE. My poor pleco.. i really need your guys advice!!

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3 years ago #1
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Okay, so i bought my sail fin pleco a little over a year ago. He's around.. eh.. 5 or 6 inches? and he's in a 10 gallon tank all by himself right now. Before, when i had guppies and mollies in there, they got sick with gill flukes. i treated them and all seemed well. Then, one guppy later had callamanus worms poking out of its a*us. I tried to treat it with anti parasite food but i think it was too far gone and died. Now, i don't know if my pleco has them! it's been a month or so without any fish in there besides him. i bought a 55 gallon aquarium a few weeks ago and recently stocked it with 2 cichlids (1 red shoulder peacock and one red zebra) and 3 giant dianos. They're doing fine. i want to transfer my pleco over but i don't know if he sick or not! i cantttt have my 55 gallon infected. id be mortified. what should i do? i feel so bad for him in that little 10 gallon..

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3 years ago #2
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You can use your 10g as a quarantine. Do not add him to the other tank, he will infect the rest of your fish. If he was in a tank with other fish infected with camallanus, then he has the worms as well. Anything you take out of that tank should be boiled and bleached. Camallanus worms and eggs can hide on plants as well. The only thing that will kill camallanus is levamisole. There is a guy on aquabid that sells it. They are tough to get rid of and the treatment is harsh. I don't know if I would ever chance introducing him to any other fish.
http://www.myaquariumclub.com/camallanus-worms-1649.html

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3 years ago #3
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Anti-parasite food doesn't get rid of them? it says on the label it does.. maybe that's just my ignorance. How do i know if he's cured once i treat him? i hardly ever get to see his belly let alone see any worms sticking out..

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You will only see the worms once they are in the advanced stages. More common symptoms are weight loss and clear, stringy feces.

I don't think there is any anti-parasite food that is strong enough. These worms are pretty nasty, they are becoming immune to medications.

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Whats your advice if i shouldn't introduce him to my 55 gal ever.. He can't live in a 10 gallon forever. I was expecting to have a bigger tank by this time and to move him over. but poor fish keeping and lack of knowledge has lead him to be infected with something that is almost incurable. do i let him suffer in the 10 gal? i don't know what to do with him. i love that guy. but he can't go in the big tank now..

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Have you been using the same nets or gravel vacuum for the 10g and 55g?

Does your pleco have any visible symptoms, like losing weight or clear poo?

Are you familiar with aquabid? There is a guy who goes by Mvp and sells levamisole. He ships super fast and gives instructions. If I were you, I would treat the pleco. Wait at least 6 weeks after treatment. If he doesn't show any symptoms, then he should be okay to add to the 55g. Sometimes it's necessary to repeat treatment several times, although it doesn't sound like he is infected severely.

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No. I havent used anything from the 10 gal into the 55 gal after reading you have to boil decor/nets/etc for it to be clean and safe.
The only symptoms from what i can tell is he sometimes isnt attached to anything and his gills are moving rapidly. I dont know if that is a sign or not. He sometimes also stays out when it's light in the room. i know thats unusual for a pleco..
His poo ive noticed is kind of stringy but not completely clear. It definitely still has some color to it.
I am not familiar with aquabid. I'll look into it though. do you know how much levamisole usually sells for?

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Mvp on aquabid sells it for 10$ and he usually ships for free. You could ask your vet, but I guarantee it would be more expensive.

I am positive that after being in a tank with infected fish, he has some worms as well. Sometimes it can take up to 6 months before the worms become apparent.

The reason that the medicated food doesn't work is because it doesn't contain a strong enough dose. Large scale breeders deworm their fish and pet shops also worm fish, but often times not in doses high enough to completely kill camallanus. So camallanus worms, over the years have become immune to certain types of wormers.

It has been 2 months since I first treated the camallanus in my tank. I am keeping a very watchful eye and am still leery. So far so good though.

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Gotcha. Well, i think ill buy some of that and give it a try. Thank you for all your help!

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I just took a look and it sells in different grams. How many grams do you think i need ?

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The minimum amount should work. I think 5g is the min and it treats 100g.

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Ok. i totally dont get how aqua bid works. how do i contact the seller?? i just "purchased" it. but it says i have to contact the seller within 3 days or ill be kicked off! i have no idea how to get ahold of mvp. what the heck.

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Just kidding. Got it!

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One more thing.. just took a look at my pleco. he winked at me it was cute. but thats not what i want to say. he's got 2 stringy white/clear things off his head and one further back. theyre really hard to see unless your staring at him for a few seconds. do you have any idea what that might be? they move around or flow with the water movement.

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Oh sorry, did he send you an email?

Hmmm.. Does it look like an anchor worm? Or fungus? It could be lots of things. Well, the levamisole should pretty much kill everything.

He's going to get a little lethargic after you dose him. Make sure not to overdose.

I also found this website specifically for treating plecos with camallanus:
http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=48

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Okay. I printed out that website and will be sure to do as the steps say. I'm expecting the levamisole today if not tomorrow and at that time will start treatment.

If any problems occur ill be sure to ask!

Thank you so much for your help.

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I really hope everything works out. I didn't mean to scare you about the camallanus, but they are really nasty little buggers. I got some advice from another member on this site when I had camallanus in my livebearer tank.

Did you actually see the worms hanging from your other fish? It really is quite a shock.

I had a silver molly die and I couldn't figure out why, but started researching and found out about camallanus. I didn't see any symptoms in my other fish so I treated with some parasite medication I got at a pet store. Thought I was ok, but then I saw worms on my dalmatian molly. Lost her and 2 platies before treatment was complete. Most of my fish made it through and I haven't seen any symptoms in 2 months. Here's hoping!

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I saw the worms in just the one female guppy. She was pregnant and past due so i thought she was going into labor the first time i saw them. Quickly researching her symptoms, i came to the realization that that was in fact not guppy fry. Looking more into it, i was at a loss as to how to treat it. at that time there was another female guppy in the tank. she passed before the one with visable worms, however i did notice her getting really thin but i wasnt for sure that she had them since i couldnt see them and wasnt completely informed of how easily they spread. Unfortunately they both ended up dying. Leaving me with my pleco.

I'm pretty sure she had the worms when i bought her, infecting my whole tank. I know now of a LFS near me and will never buy my fish from anywhere but again.

Im glad to hear your treatment worked. Hopefully mine will too and my tank can be healthy again!

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