3 years ago#1
Shady
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Hi I have a question. I have 4 bala sharks in a 20g. My sharks are staying in one spot in my tank twitching. all my levels are fine i got them tested. I also have 6 black mollies, a pleco, and 2 catfish, and a peacock eel. Everybody else seems happy **** can be swimming around the tsnk.

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3 years ago#2
ChaosReborn
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Hey shady, your tank is way over crowded. You would need at least a 55 gallon tank just for the sharks when they're full grown. Mollies are also a brackish water fish, meaning they need some salt added to the tank to thrive.

Even the pleco will need a much larger aquarium. I would recommend just keeping the Eel by itself. Or doing some research as to what you want to keep and it's compatibility.

Also, you will need to cycle the aquarium to make sure whatever you decide on stays healthy. You can learn more about this process here: http://www.myaquariumclub.com/the-nitrogen-cycle-for- beginners-358.html

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3 years ago#3
Subhayan
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Bala sharks are a bit territorial ... it is advisable to keep 1 of them else they bully each other.. that might be the cause for there less movement....

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3 years ago#4
Shady
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Ok thank u very much. The have swim around lately today. I did feed them i was fasting them for 4 days because some of my mollies had ick. I also medicated them but it did not seem to resolve the problem so i took the 2 mollies out that had ick. Petsmart told me to do that. I have had my tank for bout 2 mo. I was told that as long as the bala sharks don't eat any other fish i should be fine. I also read that 1 fish per gallon of water. So i have to many fish my ammonia is very low. The nitrates are in the safe zone along with the other nat. Will the salt hurt the other fish? Is the salt nessary? I have 2 live plants too.

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3 years ago#5
Shady
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How much salt should i put in? Can my other fish tolerate it? Can i use table salt? I also have a apple snail i heard that it could hurt the sail or the catfish.



List of fish 20g
4 bala sharks
2 Platys
6 mollies
1 apple snail
1 pleco
1 peacock eel
2 catfish

I know it is overcrowded is there a way i can make it work by keeping my set up.

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3 years ago#6
Subhayan
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1 fish per gallon is not applicable everytime... it depends on fish to fish.. i have a 40gallon tank and mostly keep goldfish.. is I follow the rule then I should be able to keep 40goldfishes if I keep so then out of 40 I would lose most of them.. moreover bala sharks do get bigger quiet quickly... and the actual rule is 1inch of fish per gallon....as I said it depends totally on the type of fishes you keep..more over you have overcrowded your aquarium to a large extent... try doing partial water changes daily.. otherwise fishes will get sick..
and you cant use table salt as it contains iodine... you have to use aquairum salts.. available in grocery shops as wel as lfs..... best of luck with yur fish keeping....

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3 years ago#7
Saibal
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you can't keep balas in a 20 gallon set up.if they are small,very soon they will outgrow in your tank.bala sharks are schooling fishes and they need plenty of room.return those to the LFS.it seems that you are new to the hobby.before buying fishes do study about them.google is the best source where you can get information about almost every fish species.

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3 years ago#8
Saibal
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if your fishes are having ick then you can apply salt and slowly increase the temperature of your tank.for dosage i think 1 tbsp of salt per gallon will be fine.
dont use the iodised salt,use rock salt or the epsom salt.
regarding salt and snail,sorry i have no idea.maybe someone else can answer this.

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2 years ago#9
adamsmith
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Bala sharks need 75 gallons per fish. What type of filtration do you have?

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2 years ago#10
MADYOTTO
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SO NONE of you have ever given a bala a salt bath then for a salt bath i use a 1 litre jug with 1 heaped teaspoon of sea salt or of tonic salt

now the trick is none of your fish could live in this solution but a short dip can cure all sorts and is very effective with white spot and ICH

here's how it is done just incase your fish get ill

make your soultion in a wide jug so your can get fish in and out extremely easy.

always use tank water to make the solution.

after you have your solution position the jug as near to the tank opening as you can you have to be mega quick here.

get the infected fish in your net and place into the soultion watch the fish very carefully as some are not very tollerant at all. I.E(neon tetras)
keep the fish in the net for ease and speed.

wait for the fish too loose it balance and turn upside down then as fast as you can get it straight back into your tank depending on the fish they do one of 2 things.

they drop to the aquarium floor looking very dead indeed if this happens put your hand in and waft water at the head of the fish to circulate water through there gills if all of this is done correctly in both cases the fish should swim a few inch looking very ill and almost dead but with in the blink of an eye it will swim of looking healthy as it ever did.

this very stong salt solution is a massive shock to any fish and should only be done if the fish looks like it will die over the corse of the next 24 hours.

BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT
i did this with my bala and he was in this very strong salt solution for over ten minutes and still showed no sign of wanting out or loosing its balance which compeared to the 10 seconds a neon tetra will be ok for is a very considerable length of time for any fish.

even a mollie that is originally a brackish fish will only be ok for 3-4 mins.

so this would tell me that bala's are very salt resistant but if they would be ok over a long period of time i could not say.

i have read through the first bit of this post and there is so much info that is wrong

SO HERE GOES for starters:

Silver Shark's A.K.A BALA SHARK'S
are supposed to be kept in groups of 3 or up, 2 is fine 1 is NOT!!!.

on there own they have no excercise in comparison these fish need a play mate to chase around the tank mine do several laps for over ten mins it appers that they are bullying or fighting but this is typical play behaviour.

You are strongly advised to buy all of your Bala Shark's at the same size to avoid bullying once they get on as baby's they usualy remain that way for there entire life.

you also have to almost over feed you shark's or they WILL fight to have a pecking order for food i have 2 in a 350 litre tank biggest being approx = 7".

also if you keep plants do not expect these to survive once they get to 6" and up they will get eaten/shreded

but here is the thing you need a planted tank to be able to make sure you feed your sharks correctly without pollution.

Here's why and how to do this:

WHY?

because plants KILL fish waste (ammonia) out right.

instead of the nitrogen cycle your filter uses which in brief goes like this.

(AMMONIA)INTO->(NITRITE)INTO->(NITRATE) Leaving you with the nitrate.

now i must stress this many people even some prolific keepers will sware that 0 NITRATE is the best but in fact 0 in nearly as unhealthy as the top end of what most class as the safe zone a tiny bit that can only just be measured with a liquid test kits is far better for the fish.

HOW?

there are some plants fish will just not eat because they taste awful to the fish so go to your LFS and buy some JAVA FERN and/or some JAVA MOSS which should be fine.

1 inch of fish per gallon really this is almost as bad as saying 1" per fish.

for example my 3" molly should live in a 3 gallon tank if to be kept alone in fact this is ample room for 3.

or 10- 3" mollies to be kept in a 30 gallon \NOT IN MY LIFE TIME

this as a guide is so wrong the correct way to do this is to work out your stocking levels by the litres in your tank and add all your fish sizes up to one mesurement there are volume and stocking calculators online.

<GOOGLE IS YOU BEST FRIEND HERE.>

ALSO NOTE IF YOU HAVE NO INTENTION IN UP SIZEING YOUR TANK THEN USE YOUR STOCKS MAXIMUM LENGHT NOT ACTUAL SIZE.


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<A PREVIOUS QUOTE>Bala sharks need 75 gallons per fish. (again this is well off)

to start with it is all about the swimming space for this fish the fish it's self could thrive in only 15 gallons of water at almost adult size an avrg filter system and a few plants would with ease keep the water fine for the fish but it would never thrive with out room to swim

what i say and many places online also agree is that a full grown bala needs atleast a 6FT tank so it has some space to swim so say you have a small 6FT tank of only 300 litre 2 would live and thrive if cared for properly

3-5 would need at very least a 6FT tank but very large 6FT tank so for example 6FT X 2FT X 21" which would only be 595=liter or 131=UK gallons or 157=US gallons

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2 years ago#11
lilman
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I sugest you don't get snails they can have 49 ba bies in an hour .the bigger the tank the more babies there will be.

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1 year ago#12
MADYOTTO
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i bread apple snails for a hobby as a friend owns the LFS i could get rid of hundereds with ease lol

and then the idea of getting clown loach was too good so i traded them all

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1 year ago#13
szbacnik1
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the reason the fish have ick is because they are stressing out. way overcrowded. bala sharks can get to be up to 14". personally i would keep no less than three in no less than a 75gal. i have 3 balas in a 55gal and i need to get rid of them because they are 9". (any takers??? FREE!!!)mine are supper healthy for now. only because my filter is 700gph with lots of biological(ceramic rings) and chemical filtration(carbon). when fish get stressed the immune system basically stops working and ick is only one of many parasites that can take over. all fish have ick but only when the immune system is impaired will it effect the fish. another very good way to rid ick is a uv sterilizer. i use no less than a 18watt on my 55gal.

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