3 years ago#1
Charlie777
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I have 4 small parrot cichlid fih in a 20 gallon tank, good oxigen, good filtration, is it that bad? Can i still keep them ?

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3 years ago#2
Rod
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Hello and welcome to MAC
Those fish get pretty big, I would not recommend more than one in a tank that size. You could safely keep them all in a 55gal if you can upgrade, just be sure to do regular water changes.

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3 years ago#3
southern creature
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Hi there,

Rod is 100% correct, but if they are small atm, you probably have a bit of time before you need to move them on or upgrade the tank size.

How big are they?

Also not matter how big these fish are or how big the tank, clean water is the key to success with these fish.



P.S. I just noticed your other post and thought I should mention, these fish can be shy. It is advisable to have plenty of driftwood and hiding places for them to feel safe.
You can also add some "dither" fish to the tank (of cause this will be hard in a 2o gallon) and they will bring the parrots out more.
Dither fish are small fish that will keep the tank looking busy. This will make the parrots feel less veunerable. Just make sure the dither fish are fast and tough fish.

Oh and welcome to MAC.

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3 years ago#4
Charlie777
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Thank you Rod, thank you Southern Creature for your answers, I make a water change every 15 days. I just started the tank, previously I had it running for almost a month then I introduced the fish, the people at the store told me that 4 were fine for the size of my tank and now I feel guilty cause I don't want them to feel uncomfortable, I would like to see them grow big and safe in the aquarium, but as you said, 4 are too many, so, should I return or give away some of the fish? or with extra care would I be able to keep them and give them a good quality of life? How many water changes should I do, and how often should I change the filters's cartridge?
About the dither fish, which, by doing that I'm not gonna over populate the tank? I was thinking to put some plecos, or another cichlid, what kind of fish would you recommend me? Thank you!, here, I leave you guys a pic of my tank, of course, you are not gonna see the fish, they are hidden hehe....

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3 years ago#5
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Thank you Rod, thank you Southern Creature for your answers, I make a water change every 15 days. I just started the tank, previously I had it running for almost a month then I introduced the fish, the people at the store told me that 4 were fine for the size of my tank and now I feel guilty cause I don't want them to feel uncomfortable, I would like to see them grow big and safe in the aquarium, but as you said, 4 are too many, so, should I return or give away some of the fish? or with extra care would I be able to keep them and give them a good quality of life? How many water changes should I do, and how often should I change the filters's cartridge?
About the dither fish, which, by doing that I'm not gonna over populate the tank? I was thinking to put some plecos, or another cichlid, what kind of fish would you recommend me? Thank you!, here, I leave you guys a pic of my tank, of course, you are not gonna see the fish, they are hidden hehe..

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3 years ago#6
southern creature
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I really think you should either give them away (keep 1 maybe) or think about getting a bigger tank. These fish will really out grow that tank.

I don't think you should feel guilty about anything, you were given bad advice. The sad thing about pet stores/aquarium stores is that they often say anything to get a sale and they think more of the money than the fish.

It will also be very hard to keep this tank clean as they are VERY messy fish. They are always digging up the gravel and are big and messy eaters and big poopers...just messy fish.
Also what ever size tank you have you should do weekly partial water changes of around 30%. As these fish grow you can make things better for them by doing 30% water changes twice a week. That should keep your tank clean enough.

It would be a good idea to have your own test kit to monitor your water conditions. If you do get a test kit buy a liquid test kit as it's much more accurate and lats much much longer.

As to dither fish or any catfish, I don't think you should add anything to this tank..it's already too full.
I was only telling you about the dither fish becuse this is often a good way to make fish like these feel comfortable. I guess a good dither fish for these guys (if you get a bigger tank) would be convict cichlids.

Do you think you could get a bigger aquarium?
If not there are many fish that you can keep in this tank , just not fish that grow so big. Or 1 parrot and maybe a bristle nose pleco!!


You should change the carbon in you filter every two weeks. The other components you can often rinse then put back in.
NOW this is VERY important!! Never replace or clean the entire filter in the same week. If you do this you will be throwing out too much good bacteria at one time. You need this good bacteria to let your filter work. Also when you rinse the sponge/wool pads only ever rinse them in water that was recently taken from the fish tank while you were cleaning. Rinsing in tap water will kill the bacteria.
So clean one section 1 week then replace the other the next this way there will always be bacteria ui it!!

BTW that's a real nice tank mate

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3 years ago#7
Charlie777
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Yes, that's what I thought, Can I keep at least 2? if I decide to give them away, what tropical fish do you recommend me? I used to have gold fish but they are very messy, I don't know if I told you guys before, I have 2 Whisper filter for 20 gallons each in the tank, I think that is a good help to keep the water clean, If I give them away (which is for sure) I woul have Platy fish, what do you think? for this type of aquarium and decoration what fish is recommended? sorry for asking too much, I'm new at this, and I wanna do it right for the sake of the fish. Thank you!

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3 years ago#8
southern creature
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I'm going to say no to you keeping two, because if these fish aren't kept in ideal conditiond they get sick, more easily than other fish do.
They are a man made breed of fish (some sort of hybrid) and are very genetically week and slighly deformed because of it.
Many individuals have problems with their intestines and get infections very readily. Also because they are a cichlid they can be quite territorial and might harm each other in such a tight space.

Gee mate...what other fish should you have? That's a huge question. Platies will breed really easily and will soon populate the whole tank if you let them.

There a great little cleaner fish called the Borneo sucker and it looks a bit like a pleco, but stays really small, so you could have several.

Maybe keep some guppies with the platies, these guys will hang closer to the water's surface and make the tank look busier. Again these fish will breed readily and fill the tank up easily.

You could also have a few tetras or rasboras or danios...there are just so many fish. However since you're a beginner, I recomend the live bearers, they are fun for a beginner. Also there are soooo many platies and guppies to choose from.

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3 years ago#9
raul
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u can keep but make sure u do regular water changes. I have 4(3 adults,i juvenile) of them in my 30 gallon.they have been here for 7 yrs.

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3 years ago#10
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Hello guys, I just want to keep you update about my 4 parrot fish in a 20 gallons tank, well, they haven't grow since the last time I posted my last topic, only one of them, is getting bigger than the rest, well, I bought a 60 gallons tank, because you guys said that they are gonna get huge!, and I got a new filter (AquaClear power filter for 70 gallons!!!!) They are gonna delivery the new tank and stand next friday, in the mean time I already put my new filter to work in my 20 gal. aquarium, so it can get the bacteria, now I need advices about how to do the moving, whats the best way to move my fish, water, gravel and decoration from the 20 gal. to the 60 gal. Thank you guys!

PD: The people at the store told me (cause I showed them pictures) that 3 of my parrot fish might be Jellybeans parrot fish, and that they do not grow too much, I think I exposed that before here, so, if that is the case, the big one which is a parrot fish for sure will end up killing the other 3, what you guys think about it? thanks!!!
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3 years ago#11
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I also add a catfish (cause the tank was getting algies) and another one bigger I'll put some pics,a nd I took off some decoration. Thanks!I will upload some pics!

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3 years ago#12
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1 year ago#13
sonu
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i havent change the water from 4 months

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12 months ago#14
FrankDanubeFish
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That will kill the fish

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4 months ago#15
Here to help im joining ...
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also catfish dont eat algea




sry i know this is an old thread!!!!!

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