I have a 10 gallon tank with 2 mollies, a dwarf gourami, a nitrite snail, a...

2 years ago #1
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I have a 10 gallon tank with 2 mollies, a dwarf gourami, a nitrite snail, and I started with 6 ghost shrimp, but they're slowly dying. The first died shortly after I got it, it turned a blue-white color. It was already a white-ish color when I got it, I just assumed it was some sort of unique trait. Then I found it dead, stuck to the filter's water-intake-thing. So I removed it from the tank.
Then like a week later, I noticed another getting whiter and whiter, it then started swimming like... really weirdly, then fell into a plant and stayed there, it eventually died. I removed it as well. Now, this is my third shrimp to start changing color.
I read that they are cheap because they're feeder fish, and that they have a short life-expectancy. So should I assume this is due to their "short-life expectancy?" I've had three of them for about a month, now, and the other three for 2 months. One of them is pregnant, I don't think it matters, but more information is better than less, I guess.
(I would add photos, but I don't have my phone at the moment, it's the only thing I have that can take photos. I do realize that'd probably be helpful.)

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2 years ago #2
Timedformula8
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Something is up and they shouldn't be dying like this.Another problem is glutamine need 30 gallons at least because of their size.

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2 years ago #3
Emily
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What's "glutamine?"
Did you mean gourami? The website I use for fish-research said that the gourami needs 10 or higher, and the person at PetSmart said it should be fine, as well.

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2 years ago #4
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Also, the dwarf gourami is only supposed to get up to like 2 inches.
Regular gouramis need like 30+ gallon tanks, but that's why I got a dwarf gourami, because they don't need more than 10.
Thank you for your response, though. I thought that something had to be wrong, too. 'cause it seems bad.

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2 years ago #5
Carley
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Was your 10 gal cycled before you added your fish? Do you do regular water changes and water testing?

Shrimp need clean water and a sponge over the filter intake so they don't get sucked in.

I've heard the Ghost Shrimp are raised as feeder shrimp so could have some weaknesses more so than others.

If you have a liquid water testing kit (not strips) like API Master kit, it could rule out a few things that it's not.

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2 years ago #6
missemmily
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Yes, I cycled my tank for a week and a half before I added fish. (I would've waited longer, but I was too excited.)
The filter thing has, like... not tiny holes, but they're not big enough to suck in the ghost shrimp I have. And I think that the air bubbles I have near the filter intake thing would kind of keep them from being stuck.

I tested my water before I put my fish in it, and it all tested at healthy levels. I will take a water sample to the pet store to get it tested as soon as I can.

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2 years ago #7
missemmily
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Also, I am new to owning my own fish tank, and this tank isn't new-new, but it's only like 3 1/2 months old.
I've done 1 50/50 water change per month since I've had it. My mom said I'm cleaning it too often, so I was going to wait longer until I clean it again, I was thinking maybe every 2 months.
Thank you for responding.

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2 years ago #8
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Fish tanks cannot be cleaned only once a month, in fact waiting so long can cause a spike in nitrites and ammonia which are both toxic to fish. You should honestly be doing 20% water changes once a week. I highly suggest you don't wait two months between water changes...

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2 years ago #9
missemmily
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That won't take away too much of the bacteria or whatever in the tank?
Should I really do it that often?
I mean, there is a filter.
Should I only change that much water, or should I vacuum gravel it, as well?
I'm assuming to not, cause you can't effectively do a gravel vacuuming water change and only take 20% of the water.
Some of the water evaporates? Is that beneficial in the sense of "changing water?"
Thank you for the information.

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2 years ago #10
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In my opinion, it's best to clean the tank 20% once a week, just to make sure none of the harmful things are building up in the tank. the evaporation of water doesn't really contribute to water changes. Also, I usually only vacuum the gravel once a month, and even then I just kind of skim it to leave the beneficial bacterias. It may seem like a lot, but it often takes my less than ten minutes I think the reason it may seem like a lot is that the water changes you have been doing are a little larger and more thorough

Welcome to MAC

Also, the water pentameter a will definatly help us diagnose what's going on in your tank. It could simply be that the shrimp you got were older

Edit: the beneficial bacteria lives mainly in the filter, gravel, and decor... The water holds very little. You could probably take out most of the water without hurting your cycle, however I would recommend never doing that much of a water change, as it can cause stress, and death of fish

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2 years ago #11
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Thank you for welcoming me! I really like it, so far. I've found that it's more effective and straight-to-the-point than some of the blogs/other forum sites.

Okay, I'll post the water test results whenever I'm able to get them.

I'll start doing the water changes weekly, then.

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2 years ago #12
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Hi again missemmily! Yes, welcome to MAC.

Your tank cannot cycle in a week! The only way to know if it's cycled is to do water testing BEFORE you put fish in it! Here is a link to Cycling:
http://www.myaquariumclub.com/the-nitrogen-cycle-for-everyone-358.html

Pet shops like Petsmart or similar, do not do proper water testing. They usually just use the paper strips, which are not at all accurate.

If you can afford a liquid test kit like API Master kit, you will be way ahead of the game. It will give you accurate numbers for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.

You should be doing water changes 10-20% once a week. Fish elimination, left over food all cause ammonia and such to rise and is very harmful to fish unless you do partial water changes once a week.

You also need a good water conditioner for your tap water like 'Prime', and the water should be the same temperature when replacing.

The filter material should be swished around in the old water you took out to get excess gunk off. The bacteria live in that filter material and you do not want to replace with new cartridge each time. When it does fall apart, place a small piece of that filter cartridge with new cartridge to transfer bacteria.

I wouldn't do a cartridge change and gravel clean at same time. The bacteria also live in the gravel; so only do partial vacuuming of gravel at one time. Bacteria don't float/live in the water, but on things.

Evaporated water needs to be replaced, so weekly changes will help with that. When you clean the gravel, that water that comes out can be part of the 10-20% water change, like you were wondering.

If I missed something, please ask again!

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2 years ago #13
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Sorry my kindle fire autocorrected gourami

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2 years ago #14
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They are right 20% water changes at least per week.

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2 years ago #15
missemmily
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Thank you. I have started the weekly 20% water changes.

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2 years ago #16
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Hello and Welcome to MAC! Missemily you have been given some brilliant information here but I might suggest one small change.... The amount to remove per week is 25% x3 weeks and then 50% the 4th week. If you only change out 20% of your tank per week you are never truly getting rid of your "old water" which can lead to your ph dropping and your toxins building. The cleaning of your gravel should be done on the surface weekly and the deep clean off 1/2 your tank done every other week. Hope this helps. Cheers everybody!

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2 years ago #17
missemmily
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Thank you. So just for clarification, should I do 25% for three weeks of the month, and then 50% on the fourth week?

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2 years ago #18
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Yes. Exactly. and test your water frequently. Do not overfeed. Remember your fish stomach is the same size as their eyeball! They will lie to you and tell you their still hungry! ask questions! We love questions.

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2 years ago #19
missemmily
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Haha, okay . Thank you.

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2 years ago #20
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Your very welcome

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2 years ago #21
missemmily
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This is my ghost shrimp that's turning white and my tank.

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2 years ago #22
Joni
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Nice pictures and very pretty tank! Thanks for sharing.

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2 years ago #23
missemmily
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Thank you.

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