5 years ago#1
mystic_goldfish87
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I love the look of sand in the tank, but I also hate fake plants. I want to get maybe a 30 or 40 gallon tank soon, with all real plants and maybe some sand from home depot. But I cant imagine the sand would have much nutrients for the plants to grow, Or even much substance for the plants roots to grow in. should I put a layer of some type of gravel underneath the sand or should I just add a little extra flora pride for the plants roots? at the same time how hard is it to clean sand with a syphin?

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5 years ago#2
johnarthur
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In the 1950s, about the only substrate material available for aquariums was white sand. Plants will grow in it, because they can take their nutrients from the water. You can also buy liquid supplements and plant tablets to place under the roots. You could probably clean the sand without losing much if you use a slow syphon and large diameter pickup end. If you buy the sand from a home improvement store, make sure it has no additives.

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5 years ago#3
mystic_goldfish87
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yes I was thinking I would rinse it out maybe twice a day or so for a week before putting it in the tank. But thank very much that helps alot.

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5 years ago#4
achintya
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in my semi planted discus tank i only have river sand. and plants are growing nicely...

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5 years ago#5
Gilliboi
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In all my aquariums I only use white sand. Purchased at my LFS. after a good rinse. its settles within a few hours. as for cleaning its so much easier then a gravel substrate as the waste doesn't fall in between. So you basically just need to syphon the waste right out an it sits right on top.
however What i do recommend is taking any decorations out an hour before you clean, just to make sure you get it all.

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5 years ago#6
dkpate
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I use pool filter sand from the hardware store because it's cheaper, and safe for your fish. I got my 50lb bag for $11, but I know you can find it cheaper. I like the look of the pfs, because it looks natural, and it's SUPER easy to clean, and all of my plants are doing great in it! Just make sure you have around 2 inches for the plants, and that you stir it often at first, and then once a week or so after a week or so, so you don't get anaerobic bubble pockets. And you only need to rinse it for a while, until all the tiny particles and brownish bubbles are out. I just stuck mine in a bucket outside and stuck the hose all the way to the bottom and let the water run until it's clear.

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5 years ago#7
Gilliboi
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thats the same way I rinse my sand in a bucket and keep running water until its clear.
BTW the sand I use is a white Silica sand with Black Organite Rock ( i believe thats what it is called).
anyhow it's the nicest looking substrate I have found and the easiest to keep clean

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5 years ago#8
achintya
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ya, i do agree with you...

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3 years ago#9
1JX305
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I probably go to extremes with my sand. Its very easy to clean, I use an air driven cleaner to lift the poop out of the tank, a lil bag collects it and some sand with it. I put the 'waste' in a plastic tub. When the tub gets half full I take it to the sink and wash the poop out of the sand using a tall container and high pressure cold water to agitate the sand, releasing the filth which just washes over the top. then i was the clean sand in hot water, drain off as much moisture as possible then bake the sand dry on my cooker. Its then ready to go back in the tank when its cooled down its quite fun =]

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2 years ago#10
feelingfishy101
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I use pool filter sand in all my tanks, My 75 has a ton of plants and they do great! The pool filter sand is real clean so you dont have to rinse much. Now I also feed my tank and do co2 so I don't know how it would work with JUST sand and no fert or c02.

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2 years ago#11
arijit
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TO BE or NOT TO BE ( with sand) is the big question.
Sand is sooooo cheap it makes me feel guilty- am I making the right choice? I sometimes ask if sand was 10 times more costlier would I have felt the same? I am still not confident I will use sand. But ur experiences give me support. I can then utilise the extra money saved to get something better for my aquarium. And I have been told that I can always upgrade the substrate later.

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2 years ago#12
IanL
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I currently have 2 planted tanks set up. one with flourite, the other with sand (mix of sand from fish store and cheap pool filter sand)I'm happy to say that both tanks are doing well and have consistent steady growth rates. (co2, proper light, ferts used in both)


I realize this thread is several years old. I am aiming this one at future planted tank ownsers.

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2 years ago#13
IanL
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feelingfishy101 wrote:
I use pool filter sand in all my tanks, My 75 has a ton of plants and they do great! The pool filter sand is real clean so you dont have to rinse much. Now I also feed my tank and do co2 so I don't know how it would work with JUST sand and no fert or c02.

what kind of lighting rig do you have set up on that thing?
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2 years ago#14
Aquaticmaniac
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I use eco complete as well as sand, I don't mix them but I aqua cape with the sand. Eco=complete is substrate for plants, it has all the nutrients needed for plants. It also has the ability to turn fish waste and uneaten food into to plant food. This is a great product. My plants thrive in this stuff. Btw way it never needs cleaning and it last the life of the tank. Check out drsfasterandsmith.com for more on for on this product.

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12 months ago#15
Jesscol
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Question...

I thought anaerobic bacteria was good for removing nitrates? Isn't that why you buy lava rock for aquariums?

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4 months ago#16
Glenn Dalton
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I don't think it would be. Sand is mostly quartz. I would use silt from the bottom of a creek or river and put gravel on top. In that situation the gravel always ends up on top although you would think the gravel would sink. If I wanted to. They make all sorts of substrate for aquarium plants that do very well and are very pretty. I only do goldfish and I know plant substrate will irritate their gills. I saw John posted below. He knows his stuff. Listen to his advice. Personally I bought crushed granite for the minerals in one of the new tanks I've been planting. I bought it at Harmony Farm supply. They also carry green sand for phosphorus. The micron size will not irritate my fishes gills. Although they make substrate in all sizes.

Best of luck,

Glenn

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4 months ago#17
Glenn Dalton
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anaerobic bacteria means in Latin anti-oxygen and it produces toxins like hydrogen sulfide (rotten eggs smell) and other toxic things. A patch of it if left unchecked will swing your tank in the acid direction so no, it's not good. You want bacteria like nitrobactor bacillus. I know there is a list of them somewhere. You can buy bacteria at the store. Just a few drops a day and a few more after water changes will make a big difference. I did for me after I did my yearly break down and cleaning of my tanks. They went through a mini cycle.

Oh to prevent anaerobic bacteria move your tank decorations just a little bit every few weeks. I have a microscope and have been known to test everything. I do fecal floats to check for oocysts every day at work.

Glenn Dalton

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