Meth blue swabs.. How often can i do a swab of meth blue? Im using it for a...

2 years ago #1
Leanne88
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Meth blue swabs.. How often can i do a swab of meth blue? Im using it for a german blue ram that looks like it has ich or fungus..temp is up and will be increasing water changes for a few days.. But she got bad quite quickly..so used a meth blue swab but how often can i do this??

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2 years ago #2
kthorkel
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What's the name of the product you bought? There should be instructions on the packaging or a phone number/ internet site listed where you can ask questions.

I looked it up for you but without knowing the product name can't really be of much help.

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2 years ago #3
Leanne88
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Im using king british.. It says about swabbing but not how often.. Cant find anywhere online that says how often either!!

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2 years ago #4
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I found your other thread and gave a suggestion there for treatment. You are going to want something that is safe for all fish in the tank since it's going to be best to treat the whole tank.. not only the infected fish.

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2 years ago #5
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Yea thankyou.. Didnt intend to start another thread as such it was more that i was talking about that ram anyway and then woke up to find it like that today.
Ill try to get a picture if she comes to the front.
I hate treating whole tank especially with something that kills the good bacteria.. Also going to be hard to find something safe as i hae labryntj fish and also frogs and cory cats in there.. Thats why i like meth blue as can swab affected area..

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2 years ago #6
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I see you have a whole other conversation going on there so we can talk about the Ich/fungus treatment here if you like. It might be easier to follow along.

A picture would be good.

Kordon Ich Attack will not kill your bacteria. Most Ich and fungal treatments won't. It's antibiotics you have to be very careful of.. that and removing filters.

Since you have labyrinth fish you want to stay away from "fix" meds.

Here's some info on Kordon Ich Attack.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4615+12100&pcatid=12100

Swabbing the area will not kill Ich. You can not kill it when you see it on the fish but have to have treatment going when you can't see them.. when they are free swimming. The reason you see it is because the fish has put a very effective barrier around it. You also want the treatment going for once the Ich breaks free from the cyst. That is when damage to fish will happen.

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2 years ago #7
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Ok ignore the other post.. It was more about her strange colour..ill post pics here.. One second..

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2 years ago #8
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Cant see it great..she is camera shy lol.. Can see how puffy her eye is and the white spot on her head..

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2 years ago #9
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LFS do an anti white spot medication.. Its all i can get.. Appears to be safe for everything and doesnt effect the good stuff..

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2 years ago #10
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I cant tell much from the pic. Its important to figure out if you have ich or if its fungus/bacterial issue here. If its ich, the whole tank should be treated. MB can be swabbed 2x a day but once day is usually sufficient. Do not get it in the eyes or gills. As I have mentioned in the past, do not use it to treat your tank unless its absolutely necessary because it will kill your good bacteria.

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2 years ago #11
Christi
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I don't see ich anywhere on the fish in question.

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2 years ago #12
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Lets see if these can help anymore.. One is in the net from above..

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2 years ago #13
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This is the original thing that makes me think ick.. The white salty grains on the tail.. But then the big one on head looks more fungus..
Really annoyed,just mucking with the filter flow and the filter spat loads of rubbish out..just what i need!! Water change time!
Note- other ram has just popped out to say hello and he has very tiny white spots on his head.. No other fish,just the rams..

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2 years ago #14
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Christi wrote:
I don't see ich anywhere on the fish in question.


The white patch on her head,another spot on cheek and another on nose..the puffy white eye..and the salty looking bit on her tail.. There the bits that concerning me..
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2 years ago #15
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Those look fungal to me. What's being shown is not Ich. Ich looks like small dots of sugar or salt. Little raised bumps. This is more cottony/fuzzy in appearance?

The reason I said "tank" is because this is the 2nd time this fish had it and there was a frog that died from fungal infection not too long ago.

What is your gravel vacuum routine?

You can continue to treat it as an isolated case, but until you get to the root cause I think you are going to continue to have issues.

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2 years ago #16
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The stuff on the tail looks salty,thats what made me think ich..
The patch on top i agree looks fungul..
The frog was fungul..random,no others with any problems and the frog was quite a few weeks back now,the frog died..others are all fine.
Yes this fish had the salty grain looking stuff on tail before but went with water changes..
I vac every week with the water change,usually about 30/40 % water change.. The gravel looks terrible in those pics as i was mucking about with the filter and it decided to spit rubbish everywhere,it does that sometimes..the filter in question is going and im replacing with the same as the other one in there,that is great.. Im just preparing to do a water change after the filter spitting..

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2 years ago #17
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Gravel often looks gunky. Doing a deep gravel vacuum of only 1/3 total a week would be good but you don't want to do more than that. For daily maintenance you can simply use net to help remove uneaten food.

How have your water parameters been, LeAnne? Are you able to test those daily?

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2 years ago #18
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I usually do a surface and a little down into it weekly then monthly i do a deeper clean.. I leave some uneaten food for the algae eaters in there as they clear it up well.. The filter i dont like at all,it came with the new tank and it often spits stuff back into the tank when its moved even slightly..lucky the other one is amazing and does well over the capacity on its own..
They have been stable for months,I have the master test kit and am quite ocd about testing,the tank is well established been cycled for months and yes i am at 100% stocking but honestly the tank looks empty..most are young and small and i have well over the required filteration.. Its always been stable, 0 ammonia,0 nitrites and 10 nitrates (heavily planted tank so nitrAtes always low)

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2 years ago #19
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She is going down hill rapidly these are my fav fishies.. What is going on male gourami also has white patch on his head..not sure if caught it or another patch..

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2 years ago #20
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She died

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2 years ago #21
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sorry to hear that
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2 years ago #22
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Think i figured out what triggered it.. One of the filters wasnt working properly.. 0 ammonia but water was a bit grubby.. I guess the ram was just weak to it.. Done a 50.% water change and sorted both filters so running properly..also gave the gravel a good clean.. Have to watch now for spikes in case i wiped any good stuff but the tank is well established so hopefully not.. Really sad i lost her

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