5 years ago#1
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My gold mystery snail is not in his shell. I thought they were attached. Has he died and if so where is the body. I just saw him moving around 2 days ago.

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5 years ago#2
johnarthur
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So far as i know, mystery snails cannot live without their shell. They're very sensitive to copper, so you need to use something like Kordon Rid Metals to neutralise it. They also need a calcium supplement for healthy shell growth. An easy way to provide calcium is to add a small hunk of cuddle bone like they use in bird cages.

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5 years ago#3
dkpate
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Correct, mystery/apple snails cannot live without their shells. There is a muscle in there that will tear sometimes, and they can't heal that. Sorry about your snail.

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4 years ago#4
Peter
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My snail is gone too. Did it get eaten by the fish after the muscle detached? Did it rot away?

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4 years ago#5
southern creature
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Couldn't really say, but if you saw him recently then there wouldn't have been time for him to rot!!

What fish do you have with him?

RIP

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3 years ago#6
ziggy
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i had the same problem a few weeks ago and not wanting to be cruel but to see whats happned i opened the shell and it has died and the snail had shrunk back into the middle of the shell making it look like it wasnt there when that happnes the snail is im afraid gone they do dissapear soooo fast if you only have small fish in the tank i can see them eating it as the snail body will be too tough nevermind getting into the shell

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3 years ago#7
Jase
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good to see i've done the right thing by putting cuttle bone under my substrate a little bit

My Apple snails (pod and pad) seem both very healthy. The smaller one (pod) was a bit of a gamble though as he had a little tiny bit of trap door damage since i rescued him from the LFS, but he's a survivor, but not the fine snail that Pad is They've been in one or two 'clinches' with each other since they were together, so unsure if they have mated (cue barry white ) or not

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1 year ago#8
Rich
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Whats the things i have to look for when adding cuttle bone. DO i just leave it in the tank clipped in and remove it after so many days. Does it dissolve into the water increasing the Calcium content or what.


I bought 2 Golden Snails 3.5 months ago. Both size of marble. Well fast forward to today, one is the size of golf ball, wheres other NEVER grew. And found the one today dead and body floating at top of water and shell empty on bottom.

The smaller one has issues with the shell cracking all the time, but it would heal over on its own.

My Tap water is semi hard as when left to sit and evaporate it leaves behind white deposits. I would feed the snails and my Otos, Weekend feeders due to calcium content, as well as Hikira algae wafers. Once week I would clip in Slice of Cucumber as well. Only feed the fish 3 times a week


This tank is 3.5 months old and has issues with Diatoms, So i do pwc every other day to keep them in check and keep nitrites down. This tank for some reason will not cycle no matter what i do. I use no chemicals but Prime at each water change and i use double the dose each time.

Only 2 gold fish( 3-4" ) and 2 otos and 1 gold snail now. All act normal and show no signs of stress from water and never had clamped fin. Tank is 20g tall running off Fluval 306 canister filter, which i clean up filters once a month in siphoned tank water

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1 year ago#9
Britt
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Your tank is too heavily stocked. A Goldfish needs 20g for the first and 10g per every other goldfish!

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1 year ago#10
Rich
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Considering the Filter is 400gph its hardly over stocked as it can handle the bioload. 2 gold fish in one 20g tank is Minimum but bigger is always better. But With filtration the size it is is fine.

Feeding only twice a week, and snails are fed outside the tank in holding container. Diatoms are coming from tap water which I have no control over.

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1 year ago#11
Paul Roney
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You are overstocked mate, your filter might do ok but you will stunt the growth of the fish and it will shorten their lives, a good filter won't change that. Also otos are tropical and goldfish cold water so it's not a good mix to keep cold and warm water fish together.

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1 year ago#12
Rich
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Otos do well in 72-82 water temp, And this tank stays steady 75F year round.

But I got my Tap water tested and its the root for my Diatom problem. Too much Silicates in it feeding the tank each water change.

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1 year ago#13
Ashley Normans
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Your snail could have died and if u have fish..your fish could have eaten its remains

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1 year ago#14
Lumbra
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Goldfish don't need all that much space. They're mostly kept in glass bowls no larger than a gallon.

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1 year ago#15
EvB
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And those that are mostly die. But this is a very old thread.

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7 months ago#16
Newtchaplin
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The snail is dead and eaten by what ever else you have in the tank. There is a difference between Apple snails and mystery snails.

Apple snails: they posses a siphon, they have two pairs of antenna, and they can get as big as a softball.
The giant Peruvian Apple snails are the biggest and they eat live and dead plant matter, and they will come running for shrimp pellets.
Apples come in a variety of colors, like black, purple, yellow, opal, tan, blue, and white.
This snail lays an egg cluster above the water line.
There is an invasive species of apple snail it's called "the channeled apple snail".

Mystery snails: they do not posses a siphon, only one pair of antenna, they only grow to the size of a golf ball.
They do not eat live plants, only algae and dead plant matter. THIS IS AN INVASIVE SPECIES. These are Chinese mystery snails, banned mystery snails, and Japanese trapdoor snails.
This snail <email> births, only 3-6 babies every 6 months.

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5 months ago#17
Snails R Cute
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Guest wrote:
[quote]My gold mystery snail is not in his shell. I thought they were attached. Has he died and if so where is the body. I just saw him moving around 2 days ago.[/quote/]

Sadly, yes :( was going to get some snails soon....
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5 months ago#18
Jack Chessher
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Hi Snails R Cute!

Can you please refrain from posting on old threads, this is from 4 years ago and it seems the OP has gotten their answer.

Jack

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5 months ago#19
Snails R Cute
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okay!
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