My goldfish has ich and tail rot and they are dying. HELP!

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3 years ago #1
Jamie
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Hello;
I recently got a 40 gallon tank. it went through the cycling process and the ammonia is at 0 now. I started adding 4 fish to the tank and they were doing fine. i added two more fish and after about a week and a half, i noticed the fish has white spots on them and then started having their tails falling off too. they die off one by one and now i have only 3 left. i went to petco and they gave me the tetra lifeguard all in one to add to my tank. i am on the third day of adding the medicine and one more of my fish die. I was wondering if there are anything i can do to rescue the last two? I am attaching the pictures. thank you so much

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3 years ago #2
tropical_tiffini
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First of all, 6 fish - and I'm assuming all were goldfish - is too much for a 40g tank. I'd say 3 fancy goldfish is the max for your tank. This is for future reference.

Secondly, water changes help a lot. I would do a 50% change ASAP and then get some actual ich medication. I don't think the tetra stuff is actually an ich treatment. I don't have experience with medication knowledge but I know there's a copper sulfate and a blue and a green option.

I'm not sure how tolerant goldfish are to aquarium salt, but I know that salt is more natural and what I have used for my Molly who got ich not too long ago.

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j
3 years ago #3
jlk
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Lifeguard is an absolutely USELESS med. Do not get any more meds- the best ich treatment for goldies is salt. You mentioned ammonia but what are your levels for nitrite and nitrate??

Start by doing a 50% water change with temperature matched, properly conditioned water. After the water change, add a second dose of water conditioner for the size of your tank. Then, place your filter media in a container of tank water & put brand new carbon in the filter. Run the tank for 6hrs with the new carbon. After 6hrs, remove the new carbon & throw it away & replace it with the old filter media. Now, do a second 50% water change with temp matched, properly conditioned water. Add a second dose of water conditioner for your tank size. This process should remove 99+% of the med from your tank.

Do not add anymore goldfish to this now or anytime in the near future. A 40g is FULLY stocked with 3 goldfish.

To treat them after you have removed ALL of the med according to the directions above, get a large box of aq salt & a small kitchen scale. You will need to measure out 11.4grams per gallon of salt (or 456 grams for a 40g). Put this in a closed container & fill with PROPERLY conditioned water (NOT plain tap). Shake it until ALL of the salt is completely dissolved. Now very, very slowly add this salt solution to your tank over a 48hr (2 days) period. On day 3, do a 50% water change & add back the salt you removed (1/2 original dose or 228g) PREDISSOLVED in conditioned water with the new water. You only replace the salt that you remove. Continue to do 50% water changes as instructed every other day. If you have nitrites present, increase this to 50% water changes every day. You need to maintain the salt & water changes for atleast one week AFTER everyone is ich-free and healthy.Please read the link below- it covers goldfish care, diet, water changes, etc. If you have any questions, PLEASE ask!!!
http://www.myaquariumclub.com/goldfish-101-11174823.html

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J
3 years ago #4
Jamie
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Thank you so much. I will try the methods you mentioned. How about the tail rot? Would that get better after the water change? Thank you!!

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j
3 years ago #5
jlk
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Healthy water is the first step towards healing fin rot. The salt will help as well. If you do not see any improvement or it starts to become worse over the next few days with salt & LOTS of healthy water, let us know ASAP! We then can make further suggestions for treatment that are appropriate to be used with salt treatment and your ph.

Also, atleast take a sample of your tank water to be tested for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate & ph and let us know what this reads. Amazon sells the API fw master test kit for $18-23 online which is quite a bit cheaper than in a lfs. You really need a commplete testing kit so you can monitor your water daily for spikes in toxins- you need to be able to act quickly if this happens so a test kit is vital for your fish's health & wellbeing. Keep us posted!!!

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J
3 years ago #6
Jamie
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Thanks for your help! i check the water before i did the water change and here are the results. I used the API Freshwater master kit.
pH: 8.4
nitrate : 0
nitrite: 0
ammonia: between 1 and 0.5 ppm
could the ammonia spike because the fish died in my tank?

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3 years ago #7
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You mentioned that you only recently got this tank. With zero nitrates and ammonia present, you are just beginning a fish-in cycle and have a long ways to go before your tank is properly cycled. You will need to be religious on daily water testing and daily water changes until your tank is fully cycled. Fancy goldies do not fair well in uncycled tanks so staying on top of your water changes is a MUST to help them heal heal and then keep them healthy.

I strongly suggest getting an API fw master test kit and a bottle of either Prime or Amquel Plus- either of these water conditioners will help to limit the affects of toxins between water changes. Right now, your ammonia is too high and needs to be dropped under .25ppm. 2-3 50% water changes with temp matched, properly conditioned water will do this and then you will need to stay on top of daily water changes because the toxin levels will spike back up within a 24hr period. Heres a link with more info on fish-in cycling: http://www.aquariumadvice.com/articles/articles/124/2/-I-just-learned-about-cycling-but-I-already-have-fish-What-now/Page2.html

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J
3 years ago #8
Jamie
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Hi Jlk!
so i followed ur advice and been doing water changes. now my ammonia is 0 and nitrite and nitrate are also 0. however my pH is around 8.2 right now. do you happen to know why this is the case? i have two live plants in my tank.
thank you!
jamie

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3 years ago #9
jlk
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No worries about your ph as long as its stable. How is everyone doing?

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2 years ago #10
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I also suggest add some natural salt which is not purified in the tank. Approx for 49 gallon 15 to 20 tablespoon. Also take at least 2 meter copper wire wind it in round shape and put it in tank it will help to recover your fish. After every 6 days keep changing 1/3 % of water. I had done this with mine and the are now ok. This is just a fist aid but its work

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2 years ago #11
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If you look in the upper right corner of each post you can see how old a post is. If it's not a recent post, generally the problem being discussed has been resolved. If you avoid answering old or ancient posts, then people who have limited time for helping others aren't wasting their time clicking a thread that has been resolved months and months ago. Just a suggestion.

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2 years ago #12
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Yes Dear thanks and sorry. I saw the posting date after answered

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G
8 months ago #13
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Hi jilk,

This is my first time keeping an aquarium. I have one goldfish that I bought from PetCo. It has developed black smudge almost all over the body. I have started the salt water aquarium method you had mentioned. Please tell if this method is effective for treating black smudge? If not, do you know what will help?

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8 months ago #14
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Should start your own thread rather than asking on one that's 3 years old. But, black smudges are not usually anything to worry about unless they're the after effect of ammonia burns. Might even be natural pigmentation showing up. Not usually a symptom of disease though.

Got any pictures of this ?

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G
8 months ago #15
Goldfish
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I wanted to follow-up with Jilk since I am using his salt treatment. So, replied on this thread.
Attached are the images of my fish. I don't feel it's natural pigmentation.
Please help.

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8 months ago #16
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jlk hasn't posted here in ages, sorry. But that is not anything to worry about. I think it is natural colour.

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G
8 months ago #17
Goldfish
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Thanks Fishfur. Hope my fish is fine. Have already lost one, don't want to lose this one.

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