my platy pregnant. I have put her in a separate floating ta...

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5 years ago #1
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my platy pregnant. I have put her in a separate floating tank. But now im not sure if she is ready to pop. Can someone help me im new to this
My video is her eon youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAK53hoYNR4

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5 years ago #2
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Hi there Louise,

Your platty certainly looks pregnant, but I'd say, not quite ready to give birth!!

To me they always seem to "pop"/"drop" once they have become more of a squarish shape than the one in your footage.

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NOW!! That is one well maintained aquarium that you have, it is also WELL stocked.....and this complicates things.

While those breeder traps are commonly used, they are not the best thing for the mother fish (or the babies). They will stress the mother out and may lead to misscarriage and other stress realted issues. For raising fry/babies, they are too easily poluted and can cause disease and toxicity....I would normally suggets NOT using one of these.

However your tank is VERY full of fish.
How big is your aquarium?
Still it is very full and they way I usually recomend birthing live barers may be problematic, due to the level of competion/space issues in your tank.

I would normally suggest placing lots of live bushy plants in a tank where a platty is about to give birth. This gives the fry places to hide (it also gives them lots of food as there will be near microscopic organisms for them to feed off, all over the plants) and this will also mean that the mother will not get stressed and you won't need to worry about WHEN she "pops".

I'm not 100% sure whether you should simply add loads of live bushy plants (like hornwort or cabomba) or whether you should stick at the breeding trap....I guess I'd er on the side of NOT stressing the mother and add the plants. This will allow you to let her birth naturally. Just make sure the other tank inhabitants are well fed.

Please let me know your tank size/how many gallons it is??

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5 years ago #3
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How many weeks do you think she is away from giving birth?

My tank is only 23 Litres. The fish shop recomended the number of fish and also the species.

Tetras(6 x Cardinals, 5 x Neons, 5 x Rummy Nose, 5 x Harliquins, 5 x Penguins) , 6 catfish (2 x Ghost catfish, 3 x Cory Catfish, 1 x Bristle Nose Catfish), 5 x Platies

Should i take her out and just put her back in just as shes abotu to give birth. The other mickey mouse platy (male) is constantly chasing her.

all my plants are fake i dont want to put real ones in as they complicate the tank.

Thank you so much for all your help and feedback.

Louise [Image upload failed]

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5 years ago #4
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I've just got home to find my pregnant platy has escaped from the breeding trap and two other males a
Have found their way in. Very odd. Have taken it out completely. When can I put her back in it? How many days have I got left till she gives birth?

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5 years ago #5
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I would never be prepared to suggest anything in terms of weeks away (or days away), especially since issues like stress and environment will cause delay or misscarriage.

I can only suggest that you look out for when she seems really square in the gut!!

Is there any chance that you could set-up a seperate, smaller, tank for her to birth in????

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25 litre with all those fish!!

Can you tell me your water parameters, ammonia levels, nitrite levels and nitrates.
Your tank is truely over stocked and I fear you're heading for a crisis..I don't want to rain on your parade!!

How often do you do partial water changes?

Also how long has your tank been set-up for?

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5 years ago #6
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Don't really have a separate tank. Also I don't have a testing kit. The ph is 6.5...
The tank has been set up now for 6months but have added new fish in the last month. A few had died as the ph dropped really low...
The fish man sent some new fish when he came to clean our large tank.. I asked him if this was too many fish and he seemed to think it was ok... If I were to get another tank should I get a heater and filter??
Won't she be alone and bored?
Sorry I sound clueless - I am

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5 years ago #7
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Oops I do a waterchange every 3 weeks... 10litres

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5 years ago #8
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Gosh,

Your pH would have got resally low because of the accumulation of waste from having sooo many fish, this would explain your past losses!
There would also have been ammonia issues and all sorts of water chemistry problems.

A lot of the fish that you are keeping will live for 7-10 years, but for this to happen you will need to keep them well. To me this is the joy of keeping pet fish...they are pets and they deserve to be cared for!! This is a different philosophy to that of most pet stores....who make money from selling you MORE fish when they die.

NOW you can do what you're doing, with regards to stock levels BUT you'd need to be doing water changes so often that it would be more work than reward.
I base my fish keepping on running a good filter, the right stock levels and a weekly water change of 20-30%. This ensures the correct water chemistry and longevity for my fish...lots of fish will live a very long time if well cared for....some even 50 years.

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Re your platty;

She will be fine if you put her into a seperate tank to birth. Your concern is soooo cute, but you needn't ascribe such human emotion to fish, plus you'll be visiting her in the maternity ward....

I think if you should set-up a maternity tank, it would be best!!

And there are easy ways to do this, you have to let it cycle...just ask!!

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I'm curious to know what is in your larger tank and also how WELL stocked is it?????

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5 years ago #9
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So ur saying I should do a water change once a week? I am very attached to my fish .. Sorry to ask 100 questions but do I need a heater for the separate tank?
The larger tank has 7bars these yellow ones and is quite empty to be honest (strange I know) will upload photo...

When should I take her out? And what do I put in the tank?

Hope ur not regretting answering this thread I just keep asking lol

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5 years ago #10
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Don't be sorry, you are no bother...I live in out back Australia and have nothing to do, really (I hate TV). I also like helping people avoid the mistakes I've made when keeping fish.

I'm not suggesting that you chsnge your water once a week...never change all your water at once...NEVER EVER!!
Changing too much water in one go will remove too much beneficial bacteria and this will harm you entire tank's cycle.
I think you should be doing LOTS of small water changes all week long but don't clean the gravel too much).
What is you water change schedule ATM....you should be doing atleast 1 partial water change each week!!!

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To set-up your birthing tank you should move some gravel with water and move some filter components too....basically move loads of beneficial bacteria from the established tank to the new tank.

What kind of filter do you have on the tank the mother is in ATM?


Your larger tank sounds like a cichlid tank and these fish are VERY territorial, so space requirements are importsnt here...it sounds like things are right!!!

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5 years ago #11
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I don't do a water change once a week. Every 3 weeks.
I don't have another heater is that going to a problem? I was just goin to put her in a vase.... Maybe that other breeding tank would be better
It's a fluval edge tank my bf got me for Xmas that came with a filter.. It has rocks and a sponge in it...
Do u think she will give birth soon?

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Please don't put her in a vase...she stands a better chance in the breeding trap!!
She will need a working nitrogen cycle to birth in and for the young to survive.
Maybe put some plants in the breedig trap, this should stop her feeling venerable and being stressed.

I suggest that you swish fresh water into the trap daily before and after the babies are born.

I don't think she'll give birth tomorrow and it is amonost impossible to say when...just look foir "squareness" in the gut.


Maybe piut her back into the main tank for now (I know they look fat) till she drops. Also I know you hate live plants, but maybe put a few in (or floating plastic ones) incase she does give birth...then put the fry in the trap!!!

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I'm really worried about your stock levels...I guess you don't over feed???
Also your filter is a good one, but I say you are heading for problems if you don't do frequent water changes.

How much water do you change every 3 weeks?

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Il get some floating plants I just can throw them out after... I covered the filter suction pipe with an old stocking so if she gives birth they won't get sucked up... Gosh this is stressful! I'm changing water about 1/2 ever 3 weeks but I filled a bucket on weekend and took 10% out today and changed it... How long could I leave her in the breeding box 2 days? Or is that to long? Tomorrow morning if she looks square I'll put her in it... Even though I know how much u hate them!!!
Have ur fingers crossed please
Don't get this square business lol but I'm guessing it will be easy to pick... Why is the male following her around so much??
Sorry again 10000 questions

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The square thing will become apparent...they just get so fat that they look like they'll pop and they also look quite square for a day or two before giving birth...it is hard to explain....you'll see!!

I like the way you decided to cover the filter intake...very good idea. If she does give birth in ths main tank the fry will hide and your fish aren't real big fish eaters any way...they will eat them if they are hungry enough, but the babies really should be safe.

She will survive a long time days and days in the breeding box, it's more a matter of stress and the threat to the babies/miscarriage. Miscarriage is ugly, they drop the babies partially formed, like eggs and they are no good, so they die

Have you put her back into the main tank? And is the male bothering her?
It is often a good idea to have at least 2 females to every male with platties....he's just a typical male...just make sure he doesn't get too agro. If he joins with her again, she'll be fine.

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Water quality will be better if you change about 25 percent every week. Infrequent partial water changes allow toxins to build up, and very large partial water changes risk changing water parameters (characteristics) rapidly enough to stress the fish. Removing the fish adds to the stress.

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No babies, i kinda thought when i woke up this morning there would be babies

Im trying to see what this square will look like. do u have any photos you can show me?

So do you advise i should just let her give birth in the tank and then quickly scoop them up when i notice she has given birth or should i put her in the breeding floating tank when she goes square (no idea how i will tell lol)

She is back in the main tank and the male is just following her every move. i have another female (i think) but she is a all orange but she seems to get no attention.

So he could try mate with her again? even though she is pregnant.

I have filled a bucket and will water change on mondays keep it regular and change 25%...

with the cory catfish try and eat the babies?

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Cory cats usually don't bother live bearing fry. As you're learning, male live bearing fish have a one track mind; some aquarists cope with the situation by keeping at least two females for every male. Females can carry enough ***** to have several batches of fry even when no male is present for a couple of months.

In my experience, lots of bushy, floating plants save more fry than breeding traps. Fast growing plants like hornwort provide a refuge for the fry, house microorganisms for them to eat, and improve water quality by digesting ammonia. When the fry are born, they instinctively head to the water surface. If they find refuge, they use it; if not, they go elsewhere and chance getting eaten.

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5 years ago #18
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Still no babies.. i think the best idea will be ill buy some hornwort a the petshop today. put it in my little tank and just wait for her to give birth. Once she has given birth ill collect the little fry and place them in the breeding trap for protection. - does this sound like a good idea.

Changing the water every week as well. hopefully this will make them survive. Im very excited about this.

Plese let me know if this sounds ok.

Louise

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5 years ago #19
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That sounds like an OK idea. Just be aware that even plants from the pet shops can carry disease in into your tank. It is actually best to quarantine them. If you feel you are unable to do this, the rinse it off with some tank water before you place it in with the molly. Some people have methods of sterilizing plants with a diluted bleach mixture, but I believe hornwort is sensitive to this.

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i ended up getting plastic plants as my local fish shop has told me that the floating plants have been banned from the store for some reason and they are no longer aloud to sell them.

Im going to try put her in the box tonight as i htink the birth is near...

Thanks,
Louise

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2 years ago #21
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Will you separate the mother and the baby platies?

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Hi Jeofrey, this is a very old post, please look in the upper right hand corner for the date. Most likely all of these issues are over with. If their is anything we can help you with please feel free to post your own question so we can help you okay?

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1 year ago #23
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Hi can you help me can I put my platy in a tank till it has its baby's . its a 15 litre tank. .will it get lonely. .how long will I be able to keep it in there for

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1 year ago #24
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Please help can you please tell me how long before its due

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1 year ago #25
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How long after been squared off will I fish give birth

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this is a very old post, please look in the upper right hand corner for the date. . If their is anything we can help you with please feel free to post your own question so we can help you okay?

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