4 years ago #1
Crissy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o1fw9jtRNc

I think Pea Puffer's are really cute and smart (like bettas) here's a cool clip I found on YouTube I wanted to share with you guys... It's Pea Puffer's hunting for snails. Anyone here own any of these little guys?
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4 years ago #2
KJP
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Okay so Crissy and I are quite mad about dwarf puffers I seriously think I am quickly gaining Phil's attitude - forced myself out from ordering yet another tank when I learnt my almost near LFS will get puffers in 2 weeks time.

Down to facts - they are messy eaters, like live or frozen food - blood worms, brine shrimp and shelled snails - apparently their teeth grow and they need to eat hard shelled something - well snails the best - otherwise the teeth will grow too long and cause problems.

So one snail per day per puffer.

I also hope someone here has them and can share the tricks how to make a puffer happy because as usually when you google people say whatever - puffer tank only, community tank, 6 in 10g, keep singly - so I am trying to make some sense out of it to find out whether they would be really suitable for me.

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4 years ago #3
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I had two in a 10g tank a while back with live plants. They have really interesting personalities, much like Bettas in my opinion. They will watch you as long as you watch them. Very intelligent little boogers.

I fed mine baby pond snails and blood worms. You are right, very messy eaters. They tend to chew their food up and spit pieces of it everywhere. So obviously these guys will need an excellent filter to keep the water in pristine shape.

I unfortunately brought them back to my LFS because they honestly demanded more time than I had available.

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4 years ago #4
Crissy
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Yeahh that's what I'm actually worried about...

Having enough time to actually take really good care of them. They are up there in fish maintenance eh? XD I wouldn't want to get them...and be a poor fish keeper in the end. But they are very adorable and if you have the time they may be very rewarding in the end :> Can't wait to see your Puffer tank Kasia!! <3

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4 years ago #5
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fantastic - first hand puffer person here! why are they so time demanding? because of frequent water changes? my pond snails like making babies - just I didnt know what to do with those babies - now I have a nasty idea - feeding puffers.

So I also learnt they might be endangered species and they live long - up to 10 years - in aquarium - is that true???

@Chaos - did you have 2 females or a pair?
@Crissy - still long way till my puffer tank I suppose too many ideas and too little room for tanks...I wont even mention money!

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4 years ago #6
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Oh Chaos - what filter would you suggest for 10g with puffers? Thanks!

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4 years ago #7
Crissy
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Eheim Ecco

But those are expensive, but very effective I hear.

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4 years ago #8
KJP
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These are external filters, I think with puffers one can use internal one - or maybe not....

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4 years ago #9
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Kasia,

I got a pair of them when I first got into the fish hobby, so my knowledge and patience for fish wasn't really up to par yet. They were very small so I had to sift through TINY pond snails to feed them. (this was before I had a planted tank so I didnt have any pond snails readily available) Obviously the smaller the puffer's "beak" the smaller the snail.

And yes your right, without feeding them crustaceans of some sort their mouths become overgrown and need to be filed down, or else they starve to death. Interesting and scary at the same time right?

As far as water changes, I had a HOB filter rated for a 20 gallons, so I did the normal once a week 20%. The current didnt bother these guys much because they kind of hovered around like little helicopters. They do like to explore things in my opinion, so a cave or some leafy plants would be good.

Not sure on their life span, but I'd google that one

PS I was also able to feed them smaller sized ghost shrimp as well. They enjoyed staring at them, then snatching them up.

PhilSaint has some of these guys currently (I think) so he may be able to offer more insight. Much luck to you Kasia.

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4 years ago #10
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Thank you Chaos - that's so much info! I still consider them very seriously they seem to be so vivid and curious. I read somewhere the snail should roughly be the size of their eye - hmm...

I will have a good look at filter possibilities. baby shrimps would do for them? You know like you hatch the eggs I know eggs can be bought just not sure it is for fry only or can be used to feed e.g. puffers. An for their teeth - only snails would do or is there something else that would help it?

I wonder whether smth like a shrimp shelter would be okay size wise for puffers as well as a hiding place? From your experience a well planted 10g is okay for a pair of puffers or better bigger? and do they really puff up? LOL I am sure they do...

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4 years ago #11
jaharjyoti
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Nice video crissy, they r amazingly cute and lovable.

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4 years ago #12
Crissy
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I know yeah?~ Too bad they are such messy eaters..I don't have patience or money to keep something so cute <.<;

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4 years ago #13
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Eheim Biopower 160 Internal Filter - what would you say guys okay for a puffer in 10g?

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4 years ago #14
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Thats a great choice to use for water cleanliness. The only thing I don't care for when using internal filters is the water return is similar to a powerhead, it creates a strong current in smaller aquariums. (Some flow rates are adjustable on these filters though)

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4 years ago #15
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true - I will double check whether on this model the current can be adjusted, but puffers are good swimmers aren't they? Can I have just one puffer and two otos in 10g? Is sand better for puffers than gravel?

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4 years ago #16
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I'd recommend keeping it a species only tank. They are intelligent little guys and if they get bored they will most likely "play" with your other fish.

Sand or gravel, it probably doesnt matter. Sand is a little easier to keep clean so I'd go for that one.

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4 years ago #17
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omg I am confusing the threads. so for this one -

I learnt that dwarf puffers are often and successfully kept with otos and that in fact oto is the only fish species puffers really very well tolerate. But of course I am not sure how it is in practice. Also they like 'curious' tank being intelligent and inquisitive they need to be exploring constantly, I also need to entertain this little blue Betta of mine so I need to think hard and get some ideas - lol People do really cool things, like underwater caves (O_o) for puffers. Now how are my diy skills??? actually they are quite low LOL!

Sand then - and something reddish that is apparently what they have in their native habitat. Am I now close to having puffers??? it all started when Crissy mentioned them! I am getting mad! I need to sort out how many puffers and what tank volume. And I still don't know what would be the best for me so until I decide I better stop dwelling on other issues! I read about them a lot though!

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4 years ago #18
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Lolol Kasia is going nuts haha Okay, It's not funny anymore. Time to be serious. I would go with sand dark sand or mixed colored natural sand. Make a little cave out of large pebbles and glue together with aquarium glass sealant; Or you can buy a cave from the pet store. As for the reddish thing, I would put red marbles in there lol. Or maybe a reddish looking plant? But that may require extra care for.

With a 10 gallon I would go with:

1 puffer
2 Otos

that would be sufficient amount of space and play area for the puffer.

And lots of plants! Low light any light as long as they don't die your puffer buddy will love you forever lol You seem to have studied a lot about them Kasia, I didn't know they liked reddish things haha.

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4 years ago #19
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Oh and It doesn't matter if you use sand or gravel, I say sand cause that's what I would use if I had a puffer tank. I'm so excited for you ahhhhhh

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4 years ago #20
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http://www.dwarfpuffers.com

I always need to learn first and think it all through I think they are endangered species so I may want to breed them or let's say I would not mind if they breed, so I might want a bigger tank for them - not sure...

I just found this page so I am not sure how it is
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4 years ago #21
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Wow endangered? O_O in the wild though right?

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4 years ago #22
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Hmm some people say that because it is not really known how it is in the wild the guess is they might be endangered. That much I learnt/read. I dont really know whether it is true or not.

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