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5 years ago #1
Fry Daddy
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I thought I'd share a little info about Walmart's return policy on live fish just in case anyone is thinking about buying fish there. About a month ago my roommate and his girlfriend were shopping at Walmart and decided to suprise me with a catfish for my tank. Needless to say I was quite suprised and a bit upset that they would buy a fish without knowing it's requirements or whether or not it was compatible with my other fish. Any way, I immediately googled the catfish (featherfin) as was dismayed to find that it would quickly out grow my tank and in the process eat all my snails and any eggs, fry, or small fish that it encountered. So I informed my roommate that I was not able to keep his gift and that he would have to return it. Later that day after he returned from Walmart, he informed me that the Walmart employee flushed the returned fish as that is thier policy. So the moral of this story is two-fold:
1) Don't return fish to Walmart.
2) Don't buy fish for someone else as a suprise.

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5 years ago #2
Phil Saint
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when you say "flushed it" do you mean they flushed it down the toilet ?

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5 years ago #3
Fry Daddy
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Yes.

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5 years ago #4
Phil Saint
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in the UK thats against the law (im sure this is also true in the States), firstly because its against the cruilty to animals act, and secondly because its against the enviromentle act.

it seems to me that when people abuse fish its not seen as a big deal, i mean if i kicked a puppy the RSPCA (royal society of prevention of cruelty to animals) would have me at court and i would never be able to keep a dog again.

sorry, im having a good old rant lol

PS, i have never and would never, kick a puppy lol
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5 years ago #5
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I am shocked - it is not only cruel but irresponsible as well what that employee did. Surely RSPCA here would get involved in fish abuse. They do - any animal I think

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5 years ago #6
dkpate
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I heard last week that every Walmart in the US and Canada are getting rid of their fish. Good! Also, it would be a good time to check and see how much they are getting rid of the tanks for.

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5 years ago #7
Phil Saint
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DK ! why do you say things like that ! lol i mean could you imagine having having one of those LFS setups in you house....tanks floor to celling, wall to wall mmmmmmmmmm im drooling

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5 years ago #8
dkpate
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Well Phil, I was not thinking of buying them ALL! HAHAHA! Just like one....or 10.

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5 years ago #9
Phil Saint
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hahaha

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5 years ago #10
bartimaus
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oh my gosh, this is yet another reason I hate walmart's fish department. I started a group on facebook called boycott walmarts fish department, exactly because of this unethical and irresponsible behavior. And I hope they are getting rid of their departments. I'd rather pay double for a healthy fish that will live and is treated better than their crappy conditions.

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5 years ago #11
achintya
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oh my god.they flushes black ghost knife in toilet!!!

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5 years ago #12
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Here in the States, animal cruelty issues don't get much attention. We also have lots of factory farms that produce and process meat and eggs in a very efficient manner which pretty much ignores everything but production goals.

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5 years ago #13
lemurnandy
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I was in the Wal Mart today to buy some algae wafers for my aquarium and saw their Blood Parrot Cichlids all had many many black streaks on them and one was in the process of dying, stuck on the filter screen at the back not moving, just laying their breathing. I wanted to cry. There was no one there to talk to about it, and I was scared that whatever they did to the poor thing, if anything would be worse than what it was already experiencing.. i.e flushing him before he was dead. This is sad. All of the aquariums looked fairly clean, just some food flakes all over the glass at the bottom. No dead fish floating, just the one BPC looking like he was going to die soon. Ya know, I wish they would eliminate their aquarium tanks and just carry the supplies only.

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5 years ago #14
Shaildevil
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Hi Friends,

Absolutely on the guys.

In Mumbai,India if this is done they would be held under animal cruelty act & PETA is the body here who does the investigation & raids. They do a neat job in defaming you & your organization if you have this attitude towards animals/fishes.

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5 years ago #15
bb2996
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You know Walmart also has a policy that if you fish dies in the first 2 weeks or so you can return and get your money back. You must bring the dead fish back into the store too. The also shows that you shouldn't buy fish in walmart.

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5 years ago #16
ChaosReborn
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Walmart is good for some things, but would you really buy fish from a store that sells motor oil on one end, and produce at another end?

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5 years ago #17
dkpate
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You have to bring your dead fish into PetSmart too. I told the lady I was not driving 2 hours with dead fish in my car.

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5 years ago #18
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Mass marketing techniques often ignore important issues, but at the same time they bring us lots of cheap products. It's upsetting when living things are valued and treated the same as any other commodity. Then maybe i should not finish reading Eating Animals.

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4 years ago #19
loopy
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I have no clue as to what walmart you went to but i worked at walmart for 4 years and i never seen or heard of anyone flush a fish down the toilette. I processed all the returns for walmart and never got a fish i had to flush(if it was dead id throw it away). So if this was something an employee told you they were lying to get under your skin or that employee was just plain stupid! and to the comment for the fish being stuck to filters and no one caring well let me tell you walmart wont pay someone to just sit and stare at fish all day so they wont get stuck in the filter. Fish are cute and what not but Cmon ppl they are just fish. U guys just want something to rant about on walmart.

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4 years ago #20
dkpate
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No, if Walmart is going to sell fish, they NEED to take care of them, period. You wouldn't go into a lumber store and buy a bunch of rotted, warped boards would you? No.

Fish are animals, just like dogs and cats. I just read an article where some kids broke into someones house, took a bunch of stuff and also put pepper, salt, and a bunch of other spices in their goldfish tank, and they are now being charged with animal cruelty for killing the fish. (They said they killed the fish because they didn't want any witnesses. ) Maybe Walmart should get charged, along with some other chain pet stores, and then something would be done about the terrible state the fish are kept in.

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4 years ago #21
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i totally agree with you dk and most others. walmart has a bad fish department. ive been to a few in the past month and they all are terrible. the plants are rotting, the fish have many missing fins ick and velvet,ammonia disease and much more, so mr. loopy unless your walmart is one of a kind and is totally different from all others then maybe your walmart doesnt flush fish but i doubt my good friend fry daddy(a highly valued member of this site who knows alot about fish) would lie and make up this story about the flushing and inhumane way they keep their fish. especialy when we all had the similar experience. so your just mad and want to rant on US because you worked there and like most employees say things like, to quote you "Cmon ppl they are just fish"

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4 years ago #22
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All retail outlets need to operate efficiently to be competitive, and most can't or don't hire people based on their aquarium experience. Since I've been a member of this forum, several pet shop/department employees have written in to say how well they care for the fish in display tanks. Others, of course, know nothing and care nothing about aquarium keeping. We hear more about negative experiences than positive ones, so it's difficult to make an accurate estimate as to what percentage of shops should be selling fish. A quick look in the display tanks is usually the best way to decide if you want to do business there.

Sometimes the quick look is disgusting to anyone who cares about aquarium fish. Of course, animal cruelty exists in the pet business just as it does in the food business. We're all part of it. The question is what does each of us do about it.

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4 years ago #23
loopy
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Honestly I HATE walmart. But im just stating the fact that in the 4 years that i worked there I never had a case or someone flushing a live fish down the toilette. And MJRKILLER308 I never said FRY DADDY lied or made up that story so dont put words in my mouth. At one point in my 4 years or service with walmart I ran the pet department(and its MISS.LOOPY btw) and had ran a beautiful fish department. I did have a few dead fish here and ther but that also came from shipping and yes some would get stuck to the filters but there was nothing I could do like I said Walmart isn't gonna pay someone to watch fish all day. And as to the kids who killed those fish they must be mentally retarded. Im not a mean person I love animals and I just had a Betta die that I bought from walmart that is how i stumbled upon this forum. Im sorry u guys had bad experiences at walmart with the fish department.

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4 years ago #24
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sry mrs loopy but i never said you said he lied or made it up but thats what we were getting out of what you said when you said you never heard of this and just the way you explained yourself. now if walmart s going o have a dang fish department then yes they should pay someone to sit there and watch the fish and answer any questions,clean the tanks, pull dead fish out and not flush them, and just be there for any problems like any other pet stores/departments do. its common sense. you dont go to petsmart or another pet shop and see cats and dogs caught in the door or in a fan and say something and an employee just say cmon people they are just cas/dogs. they wouldnt because they dnt want to lose busness cuz people would take that to heart. now they ned someone to take care of those poor fish or get rid of the department all together. why cant they pay someone to watch the fish andanswer questions, lol they pay someone to watch the doors of the store and all they do is go right to left ,and dont say so no one can steal because no disrespect intended but they are all either old or overweight so ill tell you they would never catch me. they pay people to watch the cameras and phones and they dont do ANYTHING AT ALL. but just sit there straped to the counter.l. so in summary wlamart needs to step up and hire employees (fish specialists or pros) to help with the fish department 24 hrs a dang day or get rid ofit all so fish can stop suffering.

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4 years ago #25
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I have had bad experiences with every pet dept and every pet store. I think only 7 of 25 of my fish came to me healthy. It's not just Walmart, but I wish they would find someone to at least take out the dead fish.

I saw on another forum where a girl wanted to get a couple guppy fry, and the kid there told her that she had to wait 8 weeks because the fry still needed their mothers milk. I mean REALLY?!?!

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4 years ago #26
southern creature
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K-mart in Australia got rid of the fish dept in the 80's for all these reasons, it was just plain cruel.

Also yes the RSPCA in the UK now has an offical policy of pursuing people for cruelty to fish and they do so rigerously. Having a plecostomus out grow its tank is a big concern of theres atm.

Miss loopy, I'm wondering if you are aware of the more recent discoveries of fish intelligence, the training of goldfish to perform tricks, play soccer (football...sorry Phil), do synchronised swimming etc. They aren't as dumb as you think!!
My fish come to me when I go near the tank and if anyone else goes near the tank, the fish just ignore them???
Infact I bought 4 tinfoil barbs today aned they won't come near me. I guess they don't know me yet!!

Also Miss looopy when did you work for Walmart?
Is it not possible that this is a more recent policy?
If someone within the organisation realised that a returned fish had brought a disease back with it, which then caused further deaths or treatment costs, then suerly the dictates of market economics would suggest that flushing one fish is more economically rational than any other option!!

BTW DK, what's wrong with guppy milk!!

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4 years ago #27
johnarthur
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Guppy milk is OK if you're not lactose intolerant.

Some of the stories about animal abuse in pet shops come from a video published by PETA. It shows what happens when people get out of control. Are the abuses common, or are they the exception? Are they the result of ignorance, greed or cruelty? Maybe they're just the result of a business model and all of us are participants.

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4 years ago #28
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just a small mistake - they mixed guppy with a dolphin!!!!! LOL!!

To be honest I stopped going into pet shops. I know one or two that seem okay but in order to still have this opinion I buy most of my supplies and equipment online... It is very saddening that the abuse happens and animals suffer.
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4 years ago #29
pettygil
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The Walmart return is 90 days, where I live in the US..
After reading these post I didn't know Walmart would no longer be selling fish. It's a good thing though, as those poor fishes in over crowded tanks. Bettas is tiny plastic cups, will be gone now. It's about time..

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4 years ago #30
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In the Phoenix area, some Walmart stores still sell live fish.

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