Hi all, we are fairly new to fishkeeping and are about to upgrade to a bigger tank so we can keep more fish.
We currently have one Goldfish and One Comet and plan to get more Goldfish.
Having sussed the issue of cycling the tank and managing to keep a good clean and healthy environment for the fish we are now considering putting Live plants into the new tank to add to the atmosphere and make it more homely for the fish.
Firstly what "beginner plants" would you recommend and also what would be the best substrate ? we are currently using gravel.
This is a great site by the way with loads of info and some top advisors.
Thanks for the help, Steve
I've got some anubias and anacharis in my goldfish tank.. the anacharis grows quite rapidly and I tend to trim that down quite a bit.
Oh i've some java fern in there aswell.
My comets seem to ravage the anacharis a bit tho, keep finding bits floating around that i remove now n again.
I've heard that duckweed on the surface is quite good too, but i've never seen that, so don't know personally what thats like.. i do however want to get a surface plant myself so that my comets have some natural cover from above that they can mask under when resting.
I have no idea what those plants are ( ) but will sure take a look.
Have looked at a plant called elodea densa and hornwort which look pretty cool.
Thanks for your reply buddy
Hornwort is good for algae control but i took a piece out that i had as it was a bit messy in my tank. Some folk on here like it though. The Elodea densa will also be good to prevent algae build up, it grows quickly though.
Just for advice, I managed to pick up a few passengers on some plants i bought in the forum of very small snails, which quickly became a pest in my tank, it was only after i discovered them that i was then wise to how they got there.
To avoid the possibility of these snails i've since found advice in various places that suggest soaking the plants first in a suitable anti-snail treatment is best.
Seen suggestions of potassium permanganate baths, and other snail killing substances for the soaks, but whichever method you decide on, just read up on it first, as ultimately you want to preserve the actual plant the most.
Some folk have said they don't mind the snails as they tend to do a cleaning job in the tank, but if left to go out of control in their numbers can alter your water properties due to the waste they generate too.
anyway, just something to think about.
Cheers Jase...will bear the snail cleaning in mind.
Thanks for the info
Anacharis is an inexpensive plant that can be grown floating or rooted. Those things make it a good starter plant. Like terrestrial plants, aquatic ones can experience transplant shock, and they seem to grow better in large groups.
Live plants are beneficial in several ways, but most of them carry snail eggs. When snail populations become a problem, they can be baited with a chunk of lettuce or chard. Just float it for about a day, then toss the bait along with the snails. Repeat as necessary. Avoiding over feeding will also help control snail populations.
No discussion of aquatic plants would be complete without mentioning duck weed. It grows fast and uses excess nutrients. There's even a recipe for duck weed soup, and it's great in a compost pile. Even if you have no ducks in the house, duckweed happens and keeps right on happening. It can stay dry for some time then start growing when exposed to water. It's said that ducks carry the stuff from lake to lake. Getting all the duckweed out of an aquarium is close to impossible; even a dinky duckweed dollop will become duckweed forever. Of course, duckweed dipping can be fun if you enjoy that sort of thing. Otherwise, you may want to avoid the stuff.
I had a plant and the fish ripped it apart in a week without trouble and the night I got it one of my fish tried to attack my catfish so I stopped it by putting the net in its path catching it and bringing it to the surface so it is under water enough so it can breath and also so it cannot get out of the net
Pl check this site ...very much helpful & contains water plants related huge database.... probably helpful for you to decide which plants to keep.....
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One more suggestion from me. Goldfish are very bulky from water plants point of view & there is a very much possibility that you will plant the plants in the tank & gold fish will remove them from their place. Gold fish are heavy fishes so they can uninstall your planted plants...
So may be you may like to consider the floating plants....
Anacharis is prolific and easy to grow. Some pet stores use the clippings from it to feed the goldfish. It's always a bonus when decorations can multitask.
I have zebra loaches in my tanks for that reason. they only eat snails so i have to actually raise the buggers in a separate tank or the loaches will starve to death. they're rare so i had to order them off line. it's money well spent, and the snails pretty much take care of themselves. my goldfish tend to clean out the tiny snails as well.
Green cabomba is I pretty good plant too. If it grows to much you can just snip it righ of and replant what you cut off and it will star growing again. Although my cousin had it in his koi pond and they ate it in a couple minutes. I don't know if goldfish are the same way though.
Cobamba is very good but gold fish will destroy the plants , all you can do is purchase plants that belongs to sword family..
I am also having 8 gold fish in my tank they have destroyed my all live plants, they love doing it.
I also purchase new plants as I love my all Fish !!!
I understand goldfish also like duckweed, and it grows really fast. Anacharis is also fast growing.
If feed your goldies LOTS of daily veggies, it will help limit plant destruction. They need their veggies and will look at your plants as a free salad bar if your not offering them alternatives.
If you're planning on getting more goldfish, I would recommend :
Cryptocoryne Wendtii - easy to grow, good shelter & doesn't get eaten too much - any of the cryptocorynes tend to do well.
Anubias - tend to prosper.
Java fern, Willow Hygro also good.
I have done some research as i am hoping to put some goldfish in a pond soon and found that most people reccomend leafy/lettucy plants, hope this helps
Where do you find these plants?
my koi ate ALL the snails
I have had java fern, swords, crypts in with my goldies no problems
Duckweed i cannot keep in the tank....that stuff is like a drug to my goldies, i add a handful and its gone within an hour, frogbit gets the same treatment.
Just so you know, you've replied to a very old post. Dates are in the upper right corner. The original one here was 3 years back.
Oh well, still relevant information
I know this is an old thread but it is still revalent. My comets tug and pull on the anacharis all day. They are eating it or something on it. They seem very happy.
Fishfur... whats your point... TROLL!!!
Sorry i forgot the number 1 rule with Trolls...
Duckweed is safe for comets and grows very easy, it can be difficult to get rid of though because it's so small and gets into everything, HOWEVER, Comets love the stuff and will eat a lot of it.
I can't keep the stuff in my comet and shubunkin tank, I have a small tank for shrimp that I grow it in.
This is a 4 year old thread, please don't reply to old threads.