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5 years ago #1
melis_383
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I have a 10 gallon tank with mollies in it. It's only 3 weeks old and I was thinking about getting a sort of fish to clean it. Everyone I know with small tanks has the black algea eaters and I was wondering if this is the right fish to put in my tank to keep it clean and clear. Or is a fish like this even needed? Also getting a snail was an option put forth to me at the local pet store but I'm not sure if this is the right way to go. Any advice on this would be super handy.
Thanks again,
Melissa

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5 years ago #2
dkpate
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I have Malaysian Trumpet snails in my tanks, and they clean everything, even poo. I like them, but they breed fast. 2 months ago I started with 9, and now I have over a thousand between my 4 tanks. If you overfeed, they will breed really fast, and they don't lay eggs.
Is your tank cycled?

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5 years ago #3
melis_383
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My tank isn't cycled yet, as mentioned in another post I also got ich in the first week from the tank the baby mollies came from so I just finished that treatment today and am going to start water changes wednesday so I don't want to introduce anything right yet. I was thinking in a few weeks of getting something to eat the food/poo/dirt but wasn't quite sure what yet. Another pet store here told me that zebra snails are good and that they don't breed in captivity but I'm not sure if its the overall cleaner I am really looking for, or even if this cleaner exists. I'm sort of looking for something to lessen the cleaning, not something that is going to be more bother. And even with the lettuce trick these multiplying snails seem like they would overrun my 10 gallon tank.

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5 years ago #4
dkpate
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Yes, they would probably overrun your tank, but they eat EVERYTHING which is what I wanted lol. They eat poo, leftover food, clean the plants top to bottom, keep anaerobic bubbles from forming in your sand (if you have it), clean the sides of the glass, and clean all your decor. If you could find a snail that would not reproduce and would do the same thing, I would go for that over a bottom cleaning fish. Maybe nerite snails? They are cool looking, and there are a few different types of them. If you go to www.aquabid.com you can look for them on there.

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5 years ago #5
melis_383
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Thanks for the advice, in another week or so I might go to the store and find out more on the Zebra snails, I know here there are very few options to choose from so they might be my best bet. And they definatly have their advantages as you mentioned so the pros might outway the cons anyways.

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5 years ago #6
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A ten gallon tank is really easy to over crowd, so be careful when adding any living creature. Also remember the bottom feeders still have respiratory and digestive systems and thus add to the biological load. In addition, some of the "algae eaters" don't actually eat algae when they're adults. Snails, by the way, should never be released into the wild. They can become invasive and spread exotic diseases in local waters.

All that said, Mystery Snails do eat algae and are pretty interesting to watch. In addition, they lay their eggs out of the water, making population control very easy. They're also very sensitive to copper.

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5 years ago #7
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PS: I have no idea why the picture of the ugly old man got bigger, nor do I understand what the big A means. My best guess is not suitable for posting on this website.

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5 years ago #8
melis_383
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thank for more advice Johnarthur but I'm not even sure that I do need something to clean my tank with. Right now it has 7 baby mollies in it and I don't want to overcrowd it but I also want to be able to keep it clean. The available species in my city are very limited and I have only heard about three options. One was the normal black algea eater, one was the simease algea eater and the other was snails for cleaning the tank. I've heard that the simease algea eater isn't a good option for my mollies also I'm not sure how much I can listen to this advice. The snails seemed like a good option but the only one that was sugguested to me that wouldn't reproduce in captivity and still do what I wanted was the Zebra snail. The store told me they bring in each from the wild and they don't breed in captivity so they are a good choice. Is it even a good idea to get a snail or an algea eater with my tank or should I just do frequent water changes and clean the decorations more often?

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5 years ago #9
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Especially when you're new to the hobby, you should be very conservative on the over crowding issue. You may want to give the aquarium a chance to mature, then think about adding things.

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5 years ago #10
melis_383
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good advice, I wanted to wait but was unsure if that was a good thing either. I will pick up the hose from the store and clean my tank good before I introduce anything else. Thanks for the advice, I should be good to go from here on in!

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3 years ago #11
Lee A.
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My Mystery snail does a great job of cleaning the substrate. However he has a habit of escaping if the hood is not on just right. I would also suggest olive nerite snails. Not as pretty as the more fancy nerites, but a more reliable 'cleaner-upper'.

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3 years ago #12
betty
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hi, i just got one zebra snail. is he will reproduce?thanks

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3 years ago #13
Jimmeh
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why not get a baby apple snail then as it grows so does the cycle in your tank?

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3 years ago #14
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the only fish thats gonna clean a tank better then a handful of snails is a pleco. thats in my book though yeah otto cats do do good in larger numbers but they like to stick on the sorounding things like driftwood, plants and rocks. a bristle nose pleco or two in a 20 gallon will kepp her so clean you wont ever see algae(unless your miscaring for your tank in lighting and window exposer). hope this helps

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3 years ago #15
Jon Brooks
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Do they even clean the glass?

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3 years ago #16
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Any fish or snail you add to the aquarium will add to the biological load and will never clean the aquarium as thoroughly as a careful aquarist. Mystery snails and cory cats are interesting and peaceful aquarium residents; buy them for added interest, but don't expect them to do all the aquarium maintenance.

The common pleco can get very large and destructive. It is also nocturnal and has been known to suck the protective slime coat off sleeping tankmates. Bristlenose plecos are a much better choice.

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3 years ago #17
Carol
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Do you have any snails you would like to give away for free and would shipp to me I dont live in your town. Thanks so much HAVE A BLESS DAY

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3 years ago #18
Carol
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Hello do you have anymore snails ? I was wanting one to put in my fish Tank to keep it clean would you write me back at my e-mail address <email>

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3 years ago #19
Carol
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Doe's anybody have a snail that they would like to give away for free and would shipp to me I live in texas and no pet shopps close by. You can e-mail me at my e-mail address <email>

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3 years ago #20
1DFishLover
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I personally think you should get snails. They are very easy to take care of and you won't have to worry about it eating any other fish.

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3 years ago #21
pam
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i dont belong to this group but id like too ill tell you what i do i have 55 gal tank half community tetras, cherry barbs, and half cichlids i have 2 plecos one lace catfish, and a little black cat not sure of the name. but i went to pet supplies plus and they suggested carbon they come in a mesh bags and you put them in with the filter or filters and they absorb all the **** and make it clear if you have room id suggest another filter even if it is a smaller filter its worth it.

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2 years ago #22
jennifer Russell
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I have question! i have two small tanks and they are plastic tanks but they are very good and i would like to know if pound snails would work in a small tanks like i have?

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2 years ago #23
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If you find the snails interesting, add them. However, don't expect any fish or snail to clean the aquarium as thoroughly as you, and do expect them to add to the biological load on the tank.

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2 years ago #24
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mjrkiller308 wrote:
the only fish thats gonna clean a tank better then a handful of snails is a pleco. thats in my book though yeah otto cats do do good in larger numbers but they like to stick on the sorounding things like driftwood, plants and rocks. a bristle nose pleco or two in a 20 gallon will kepp her so clean you wont ever see algae(unless your miscaring for your tank in lighting and window exposer). hope this helps


Plecos are great fish to clean algae. But be careful some species can grow very large such as 16 inches. That would over crowd a 10 gallon tank. If you have plenty of space in your tank getting a few of the smaller ottos would be better(at least for a 10 gallon).
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2 years ago #25
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Also keep in mind algae can grow on other surfaces underwater (decorations, fake plants, gravel,etc) not just glass.

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2 years ago #26
RoseyWinters
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Maybe get some snails. They clean my tank epically awesomely! They are so fun to watch. But i would wait until your tank is growing alge

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2 years ago #27
thea
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Get a snaill or fish only if you like them, not to clean the tank. Any addition will add to the bioload and nothing takes the place of water changes for keeping a tank happy and balanced.

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2 years ago #28
Papou
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For me i'll go with he cheapest snail mine are ten cents one and could duplicate really fast i am imressed too with my 59 cents ghost schrimp. They zre like ufo vessel and become pink when dead... easy to figure out !

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2 years ago #29
johnny10
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Snails love algae, algae wafers, and fresh veggies! Mystery snails are also fun to watch!

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2 years ago #30
purplemexx
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Whilst I agree with your repeated emphasis on increasing the biological load, and favouring snails, many large UK pet shops sell snails and shrimps as organisms which "don't affect your fish load"! so there are a growing number of people believing this, but that is a side point.

My main point is that, whilst I encourage the use of snails, I find my rabbit snail fascinating to watch, I have had to remove the apple snail and a large striped ramshorn-type since I have all live plants. Whilst my onion and rabbit snail have a negligible impact so far, the other 2 ate long plants such as traditional oxygenators and cabombus off at the base and when there were no easy tasty plants ate any ne leaves on even the anubias and java fern!

So whilst I would encourage people to go for snails and shrimps as an alternative to cleaner fish, They should look into what kind of impact this will have on a planted tank.

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