Whats the best solution for my 2 female Angelfish that keep laying eggs w/out a male to fertilize?

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6 years ago #1
Dollfacekim
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I have a community tank (29g) with 4 small Mollies and 2 Medium - Large Angelfish that are both female and do not get along. I recently found out (15min ago, lol) that the one Angel I separated from the one who laid eggs 3 days ago is also a female because when I woke up this morning she too was laying eggs on the other side of the tank (what's going on?!). I love my Angelfish and though they do not get along I am wondering if it was due to their motherly instincts or something since their fighting only began a few weeks ago after one of the Angel's laid eggs and sadly ate them (we knew nothing about Angel's and their aggs at that time so we were like "wtf?! she ate her own eggs?!" Darwinism I guess, eh?!
Anyhow, my question is... Do you think I need to get rid of one of the Angel's and get a male instead if I ever want to see some babies? I also realize that with them laying their eggs so much it is not good for them, as it depletes them of their body's nutrients... Plus, they fight fight fight and that's not a happy tank.
And why do they lay eggs if they cannot be fertilized? The egg's that were laid 3 days ago went from a dark brown color to a light tan color and are still the same size, same color, no fungus... I thought it took a day to develop fungus...
Arrggh, I'm so confused at what to do and what is going on. I need a pro here in my apartment to help me and tell me what to do for them but this is the second best so I though I'd give it a shot!
Thanks for any advice you may be able to offer! (and sorry for my long a$$ message, I have that great gift of gab =)

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6 years ago #2
johnarthur
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Thanks for visiting.

It's not unusual for two female angelfish to spawn. Probably being gravid with eggs triggers the behavior. Infertile eggs grow a fungus and are not translucent. If the eggs in your aquarium keep looking fertile, you have a dual gendered angelfish or one capable of parthenogenesis, since angelfish eggs get fertilized only after they are deposited. I've never heard of such an angelfish, but with all the selective breeding and gene splicing, it's not impossible. Please keep us updated.

Mature angelfish are normally aggressive and do not make very good tankmates. If you want them to spawn, you of course need a male angelfish, and the pair will need it's own aquarium of at least 25 gallons. If you type angelfish next to the SEARCH button at the top of the page, you can find blogs and posts about gender determination, spawning, raising fry, etc. Just adding a male angelfish may not result in a spawning pair, but chances are fairly good.

Despite their aggressiveness, angelfish can be delicate and demanding. They also develop personalities and tend to to what they want rather than what we aquarists expect of them. Raising angelfish is a fascinating experience, but it takes lots of aquariums and patience. I highly recommend it.

Please feel free to ask more questions. You're also welcome to join our forum.

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4 years ago #3
Terri
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I bought two angelfish last year. I picked what looked to me to be a male and female. I was correct. I didn't count on spawning. I figured they might not like each other anyway. They were pretty, so I bought them.

About 4 days ago, the female laid eggs...on the filtering systems siphoning tube. Great...

I had other fish in the tank too. So I went out and bought a 5 gallon tank for the other fish (all scavengers), and a new filtering pump (the other has been turned off).

Since I don't want the new siphon to "suck up" any babies, how soon should I expect to turn it off also?

I've never done this before. Didn't count on it either as I have never had Angelfish that didn't eat their eggs.

Thanks,
Terri

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4 years ago #4
Christi
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you dont have to turn off the filter. You can reduce the flow by putting a nylon over the intake or putting a sponge in the basket located at the very bottom of the intake tube. The best solution would be to purchase a sponge filter but I know that not everybody has the resources to do that.

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4 years ago #5
Terri
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Thanks for the info, Christi. I think I can manage a nylon.

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4 years ago #6
BIGHUTCHIE
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I have 2 Female Angle fish breeding and yes ive seen them both lay eggs but they will not let a male near the eggs what do i do?
Remove one of the Anlges?
Thanks Peter

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4 years ago #7
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It's not unusual for two female angelfish to spawn. Probably the spawning is a response to being gravid with eggs. If you decide to add a male angelfish, give the spawners their own, large aquarium. Two females have been known to spawn with one male.

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3 years ago #8
eggman
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hi i have a pair of platinum angels and they have aparently spawned properly when at there previos home. all the signs are good and they have been cleaning there slate for a few days now and the female is getting very plump. she is now doing all the write things and moving up the slate with her tummy on it like i have seen videos of spawning howrver she isnt actually laying any eggs. is this normall to have what im calling a practise????

also the male is not copying her at the moment is he not ready to fertalise eggs!????

thanks

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2 years ago #9
FishyLady522
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You can expect to see eggs fairly soon. I had a pair do this also, and another pair with the male doing the same. I have noticed that the males seem more eager to breed.... I don't know if others have noticed this too lol.

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2 years ago #10
Judy
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I have 3 angel fish and 2 of the tigger stripe pair together..they attack the gold angel fish when she gets closes..but my question is the 2 tigger ones laid eggs but it was sad like nemo...they ate the eggs or someone did,anyways today they are busy cleaning the filter tube again and keeping the other fish away from the area,im guessing to lay eggs again...but I noticed the eggs appear clear. sooo whats the deal?...should I take the eggs?or does it matter,cause Im sure they probable eat them again. Where Do I look for a male?

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