4 years ago
Drecino
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White foamy Bubbles on top of tank water?, Levels in tank are PH = 7.4, AMMONIA = 0.25, NITRITE = O, NITRATE = 0

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4 years ago
MrBreeze
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Did you do a water change or add anything to your tank recently?

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4 years ago
southern creature
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I agree with MrBreeze and this may have come about because you added something to your water...products like melafix/pimafix (disease treatments come to mind).

Another thing that causes foam on the water's surface is a build-up of protein. Protein will come from decomposition of dead plants, fish (animals) or surplus food etc. It is important to remove surplus protein before it converts to ammmonia then nitrite, etc.
All this might explain why your ammonia reading is above zero.

All this aside, I'm wondering why you have no nitrate reading. Was this tank recently set up?

Do you have any fish in there yet?

If you do have fish, I'd recomend a water change (about 30%) to bring down your ammonia reading. Also do 30% every day till it's zero.

If you are still cyclind this tank (without fish) then don't do a thing, exept keep testing your water for ammonia, nitrites and nitrate.

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4 years ago
Drecino
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The tank is new and i did not notice the foam until i added logs to my tank, i did soak them for 2 days in luke warm water to get any excess build off of them, also i do have fish in the tank but today i noticed ich spots on the fins of my loaches and they are hiding under my rainbow rocks so im keeping the lights off for a few days raising temp and using aquarium salt.

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4 years ago
southern creature
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OK, since the tank is new, I'm wondering if you let it go through the cycling process 1st? This could explain why you have an ammonia reading and no nitrate levels.
Please read-up on the nitrogen cycle/cyling by typing "the nitrogen cycle for beginners" into the search bar at the top of this page...it is basic info, but important stuff.

N.B. the cycling process describe there is for a fishless cycle, cycling with fish is more complex and takes longer.


Adding wood may well bring sugars/sap with it and this will cause protein/foam, I suggest that you skimm it off. I skim by sinking a bucket into the tank, then tilting it slightly so the surface water trickles down the inside of the bucket. Simply make removing this water part of a water change.
I still recomend you do water changes to deal with ammonia too.



Most disease comes about due to less than ideal conditions and your fish are probably stressed and this is probably because of ammonia and lack of cycling...however it seems you've got a handle on the treatment.


Exactly how long has this tank been running??

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4 years ago
Drecino
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it ran for 2 weeks before adding any new fish the first two weeks i did have 2 swordtails in the tank,this is probably the third week since its been set up. right now i know that the tank is in my 'BACTERIA BLOOM" phase so this may be stressing the fish out also but luckly knowing how to treat the parasites and giving the fish a lot of hiding places i'm hoping to fix this problem i will deff keep you posted with the lvels in the tank i did do a water change of about 25% earlier tonighg

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4 years ago
southern creature
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Exellent mate.

Lots of water changes to keep your ammonia down, but this will reduce your bacteria...bit of a catch-22, this is why it will take longer to cycle with fish

Keep us posted!!

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4 years ago
Drecino
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Thanks i sure will, how often should i add the aqua salt though ? i was not totally sure on that and i will wake some reading in a few days i bought a new test kit so i still have 799 more reading left to do with it

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4 years ago
southern creature
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Opinios vary here and it varies from species to species (e.g. african cichlids and Aussie natives don't mind high salt levels).

Did you add 1 teaspoon/5 gallons?

This is what I do then wait 3 days, then do it again, wait 3 days, then change 1/3 the water. If further treatment is needed then i redose 1 teaspoon/5 gallon. I mostly have very hardy fish like saratogas and clown knifefish...these outlived the dinosaurs, so these might not be the best measure for the fish you have!?!?

Still I use the same method for my smaller fish and it's worked so far.

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4 years ago
Drecino
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did some more readings today everything is the same except for my PH which is now 7.6 but the first test i used my high ph bottle instead of my reg PH bottle.

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4 years ago
southern creature
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So, how often are you doing water changes atm and how is the bacterial bloom going?

Also I'm a bit surprised that your pH is rising, adding wood should cause it to lower!?!?

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4 years ago
Drecino
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the wood i actually added was Mopai logs or whatever, and i got rid of the ich already so thats good right now all the tannin is leaching out and i think that helped with the ich due to the fish supposivly like the tannin, as for the bacteria bloom its still just a little cloudy not bothering the fish at all, and doing 305 WATER CHANGES TO HELP GET THE LEACH TANNIN OUT every three to four days

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4 years ago
southern creature
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I'm not familiar with mopai logs, but they seem to be Ok if you fish are fine.

Releasing tannins into the water will help your fish, if they are a species that is used to tannins. What fish do you have?

A 30% water change will (in time) eliminated tannins, but to me tannis are a part of a fish's environment and I like them...if the fish does. e.g a lot of gouramis like tannins so why eliminate them...discus like tannins and thrive when they are present.

Keep the tannins if you want...I would!!

The bacterial bloom also seems natural...it is part of your cycling process.

Do you have current ammonia and nitrite readings?

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4 years ago
ilikefish
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I have this tank that I have had now since middle of April. I am struggling with keepint the ammonia down. I keep doing water changes every day (the amount of water that i take out is usually 30-80%, I have been doing this for weeks now and still no change in ammonia. I know that the tank was not properly cycled through and fish was added to early. What shall I do? Every day i add also ammo-lock....Fish looks happy as Larry though...

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3 years ago
Fishylover10
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its it a betta's tank? if so, it could be his bubble nest!

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2 years ago
trance
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Fishylover10 wrote:
its it a betta's tank? if so, it could be his bubble nest!


That's what I was thinking. Male bettas blow bubbles and link them together to make a nest. This is normally a good sign as they see the conditions good enough to breed in..... again if its a betta male.
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2 years ago
darcy devon-willis
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hey my names darcy i have an oranda and some others but my oranda just got sick all of a sudden ive put melamix in it and now their are lots of bubbles covering the tank i took them out i bought a water tester the highest is a purplely pink and mine read that but i dont how to get it glear again so my fish is dying i really need your help

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2 years ago
Anthony Rose
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What a shame that no one answered you, I hope you got an answer elsewhere in time.
For future reference, you probably needed to change the water with new de-chlorinated water at the same temperature.
99% of the time, problems are due to fish wee and poo + any uneaten food, which build up ammonia very fast.
If in doubt, change 30-50% of the water immediately.
Stop feeding for 2-10 days while you get more answers.
Make sure a tank has been running for two weeks without a fish before you put about 1-3 in, and two weeks before you add another 1-3, etc.
Measure the nitrates. This will help you tremendously to see how healthy your tank is. There should always be some - if none, yell for help - but try to keep it at 10-30ppm.

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1 year ago
Flint and Kade:)
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Ok, so I have had my fish for quite a while now and he is a Shubunkin Goldfish and he is a pretty hardy thing. We just got a new filter a few days ago and we have done nothing different besides that and suddenly the tank smells like a motor (like oil...) and there is a layer of white foam on the tank??? The filter didn't say to let it soak in water or anything like that, and we have been putting Aquasafe (from Tetra)in there for the past few months so I know that can't be it. I would just like to know what is going on and get the stench out of my room...haha!

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1 year ago
Anthony Rose
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If you took your old filter out at the same time as you put the new one in, you have lost your entire colony of good bacteria which eat up the fish waste, and you're in big trouble...
(If you put the new one in with the old, then there would have been a bacterial handover period and the reason might be something else. If you mean that you put in a new pump, check it is working properly.)
But if not, no worries, you can save the day.
1. Do what I said in the post above - asap change 50% of the water at the right temperature and right dosage of your Aquasafe.
2. Stop feeding immediately for 3-5 days. The fish will be fine!!! If really concerned, feed a little live food like Daphnia. But the fish will be fine for sure either way.
3. Asap buy a tank bacteria kit like Waterlife's BacterLife which adds new good bacteria to the tank, and use as indicated.
4. Asap buy an Ammonia and/or Nitrate test kit, you really cannot do without one at least when things go wrong. You do not need to test often and can do a half-voume test to make it last twice as long, but it is well worth the money.
5. Tomorrow, change 30% of the water, and carry on doing this daily until the water carries no long lasting bubbles which you agitate it (healthy water), or you see low Ammonia or 10-20ppm Nitrates.
If you see less than 10ppm Nitrates, and have no Ammonia test, it may be that your bacteria are not well enough established yet and that you have a very dangerous ammonia build-up, or less likely but possible, it may be that you are changing too much water for the bacteria to get a grip. If the former, you need to keep the water changes, if the latter, you need to start decreasing them. Use the amount of bubbles on the water, and your fish's behaviour, to work out which it is (water too dirty or too clean). If too clean, try decreasing the water change slowly each day, as the bacteria build up you should be okay to feed again as well.
You can see the bacteria on your filter, they look like brown gunk (but note that they hate the light, so in thsi critical moment of recycling the tank, don't keep on exposing them to light to check on them - just get a test kit ).
(PS. The way you say, "putting Aquasafe in there", I hope you are putting it only into the new tap water before you add it to the tank, and not just adding it to the tank without adding new water. It's purpose is only to dechlorinate the tap water, and if you add too much (like adding to the already safe water in the tank), you will also get foam from way overdosing. It does not make dirty water clean, only the bacteria on the filter do that, and even then, they do not remove Nitrates - those are removed by doing the normal weekly water changes.)

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1 year ago
jackyreyes
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yes but it was betta safe liquid thing

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1 year ago
haroldr2473
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I put new bubblers in it . and it's not really so much white and foamy just bubbles are staying on the top of the tank

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7 months ago
johanna coates
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i have a 200 gal tank which i have inherited .it is fresh water and white foam showed up today. it has a big filter which i have not touched I have had the tank for sevin mo.

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7 months ago
anthony
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I hope you are doing proper careful water changes and rinsing the filter material in the old water - if not, you asap would need to read up on how to look after fish, because they would be swimming in their own piss otherwise.

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3 months ago
KevinNC
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I had my tank now for about 6 months. I constantly have to add AccuClear every 3 days to keep the water clear. I clean the filter about 3 days or before adding the AccuClear. Today I suddenly had foam skimming the top of the water. The water tends to turn sorta orange too. The filter will be brown and I guess so full of brownish/orange goo that water cant flow thru it, it goes over it back into the tank so that is why I just take it out and slide another clean one in. Why am I having to do this so often to keep a clear fresh water tank. I have a very large gold fish and some smaller fish that I don't know the names of, they called them glo fish at Wal-mart. The gold fish was a price at a school carnival probably the size of a quarter and now as long as a dollar bill and 4 inches tall and thick. He is huge. I only clean the gravel with a vacuum once a month. I want to see the fish is why I am so adamate about using the AccuClear so often. I don't check the water for all the things mentioned above but I do have the strips to do so. From what I have said any help??

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3 months ago
anthony
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You have not given enough information, but in addition, it seems you have not done enough research, either. If you have not done it yet, I recommend you google fresh water fish water filtering and causes of brown/orange water and you will probably get a better understanding.

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3 months ago
KevinNC
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Thank You! I have spent many many hours researching issues with my tank since before I even bought it. From the first step so I feel I have done that and have not found the answers that I need other than to add this chemical and that chemical to keep it clear. None on why the water keeps getting this way. I provided all the information that I saw most others provided, sorry if that wasn't enough for you. I don't know what else to provide. I will keep adding the AccuClear and keeping my filters clean as I have been and just deal with it. The fish don't seem to be suffering so Im doing something right, maybe not everything. I thought this post would give me something that I am missing, guess not. Have a nice day!! I will deal with this without this "club" that doesn't seem interested in my problem.

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3 months ago
anthony
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Sorry, Kevin! I did not mean to sound like I was criticising you! I'm just really busy and don't have time to detail, and it seems most people in this club do not either.
Changing filter at that 3 day rate, things it could be at first guess are either algae or fish poo. Either way it is likely that there is too much bio activity for the water volume (algae thrive on waste). I assume you are doing regular water changes, and not putting a brand new filter in entirely in place of the old one (since you'd lose your colony as you know). So I'd check whether it might be algae, and check whether the tank is big enough for the fish. If it is algae, I'd ensure that your filter is functioning properly before getting rid of the algae, as the algae are a) eating up the nitrous waste and b) their die off is dangerous. Also I'd try to feed live food. Culturing daphnia is not hard if you get lots of sunlight and reasonable temperatures where you are. Tell me if you want more info.

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5 days ago
cliff
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A 25 per cent change of water . And tap treatment

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