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6 years ago#1
Lukbe
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I have had him almost a week.
At first he swam around as usual and I feed him once a day usually pellets or flakes.
But now he is hanging around the bottom of the tank most of the time.
What could be the reason? What to do to save him before he dies?

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6 years ago#2
lookoutworld
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this happened to mine also. Are you sure your tank is fully cycled? that is the only problem i thought of with mine.

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6 years ago#3
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Is there uneaten fish food at the bottom of the aquarium? It's possible to buy a healthy looking but sick fish, and it's also possible to make a healthy fish sick by introducing him to the new tank too fast, putting him in a tank that has not been cycled, or not maintaining the aquarium. How big is the aquarium? Before I read your reply, some guesswork may be instructive. Bettas can't eat much, so you have probably been over feeding him, and that's doubly bad in a small aquarium. Assuming some of that is correct, a series of partial (20 or 25 percent) water changes will give the Betta his best chance at survival. Do the changes every day for a few days, then go to a once a week schedule. When you replace aquarium water, make sure it's at approximately the same temperature as the old water, and use a good water conditioner. The Betta can go a week or so without eating, so don't try too hard to feed him.

Please let me know if some of this helps.

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6 years ago#4
Lukbe
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It's a 2.5 gallon tank.
I had it up and running 2 days before I put the betta in.
When I feed him it is usually a small amount such as 2-3 betta pellets or a small amount of flakes that he can eat in a min. or two ONCE a day.
There is no uneaten food at the bottom of tank.

I did a small water change today and I won't feed him tommorow and see if he perks up.
He may have been constipated after going from the pet store cup and being un fed to an actual tank and fed....lol
Looking at him right now he seems to be swimming around the tank every so often.
I think thats a good sign.

Keeping fingers crossed.

P.s How long do you have a betta tank up and running before putting the betta in?????
If 2 days wasn't enough...

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6 years ago#5
angela_brown
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Longer cycling would be better. 2 days isn't nearly long enough. 4 weeks is a basic time... Maybe a little less in that small of a tank.

Some floating plants may be a good addition for your beta... and to help the cycling of the tank.

A water test kit would be a good investment. Check your water, and watch for ammonia spikes. Do your water changes. In a tank that small... Try 25% every 3 days or so. Please don't forget to use water conditioner.

Good Luck!

Angela

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6 years ago#6
Lukbe
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Ok I'll put a pin on haveing the tank up and running longer next time before putting a betta in. Don't worry I condition the water with Bowl Buddies fizzing tabs.

BTW: Update
After the partial water change yesterday by the evening my betta was swimming with energy and has been staying at the top today.
Not swimming a whole lot but at least he isn't at the bottom of the tank.

I havn't fed him today because I was worried also that he might have been constipated from not being fed at the pet store to being fed.
(I only feed him 2-3 betta pellets a day and sometimes flakes for a change).
Hard tell what exactly was the prob since he can't talk..

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6 years ago#7
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Are you sure those bowl buddy fizzier things are actually made for aquarium use?

Bettas can breathe air, but they also need to use their gills, and the toxins (ammonia and nitrite) in an un-cycled aquarium can burn their gills. You'll need to keep up the partial water changes until both toxins stay at zero.

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6 years ago#8
Lukbe
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Well I don't have the box for the Jungle Bowl Buddies Fish Tank Water Conditioning Tablets and Fish Food for Bettas to look at if it says bowl only not for use in aquarium.
I'll go by the store and double check though.
Here is a link that shows the box.
Its for the betta and in the reviews some speak about putting it in there aquariums.
That they are just like the drops.
When fizz is gone.... water is safe for fish. http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp? productId=2753398&cp=&sr=1&origkw=betta&kw=betta& parentPage=search&keepsr=1#RatingsDetail
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6 years ago#9
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MY bad!

I thought the name was funny, because it reminded me of a TV commercial for some fizzy stuff that goes into another kind of bowl. I can just see a guy named Billy doing a TV pitch for Betta Buddy Fizz Buster Tabs

On a more serious side, I know that some fish medications work and have read good things about Jungle brand products. Medications, however, do not address the reason behind an aquarium problem. More often than not, the reason has something to do with water quality. Once the aquarium water reaches a healthy biological balance, sick fish have a chance to recover, and diseases are infrequent.

Again, I apologise for exercising my slightly weird sense of humor. It must be a generation gap or something.

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6 years ago#10
killak3v718
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hey you know my girlfriends betta did the same thing and he has be doing it for th epast year and he is still alive idk wats wrong with him

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6 years ago#11
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Male Bettas are not the most active fish, and they do get sick sometimes. A healthy fish usually acts hungry; if he doesn't want to eat, he probably doesn't feel well.

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6 years ago#12
Lukbe
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Another Update:
My betta was very active today...lots of swimming...
He must be feeling better.
But I'll still keep an eye on him.

Added info: I brought him home the week of Valentines Day.
He is a creamy white color with red spots on his fins.... Fitting for the holiday I thought...
So I have named him Romeo.

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6 years ago#13
angela_brown
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That's great!

And a cute name!

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4 years ago#14
Waz up?
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Do you feed them until they stop?

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4 years ago#15
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No, you feed only what a fish can eat in about 2 minutes. or usually 2-3 pellets for a betta.

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4 years ago#16
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Another idea - with the other good suggestions you already have received - may be the differences in the water from your LFS to your home.

Are you using tap water, then adding water conditioner?

My LFS has pH at 7.0 - mine runs about 7.8 or higher. This is normal for the fish I have. I can have zero readings on the ammonia and nitrites, but notice the pH level is hard to adjust with any newcomers.

That could be a possibility that he is having to adjust to either the toxins in the water, or the differences in pH - which makes toxins feel worse for them.

Hope he is doing fine now.

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4 years ago#17
ravenluna
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His temperature might be too low. 78-80 is typically a good temperature to use for betta's.

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4 years ago#18
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Luckbe,

You tank isn't cycled and that's what's causing the problem. When I started keeping bettas, I lost 2 in 3 days, because my tank wasn't cycled (though I thought it was...)

My suggestion -- do DAILY water changes 25-50% (how big is your tank?) Monitor ammonai, nitrites, nitrates -- you'll need a test kit. Change the water anytime ammonia or nitrites get near 0.25PPM ...

Good luck!

GB

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3 years ago#19
jenology
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to johnaurther,
you seem to have some really good insight when it comes to the issue of a vertical swimming betta, my betta has the same problem now. she tucks herself in the bottom corner of the tank and only comes up if i "play" with her. i only try to get her attention once a day just to get her some excersize, and check on her swimming ability. she swims well though seems to struggle to keep from being vertical. she is not eating, nor is her tankmate? i only put in 1 pellet a day to see if the active one wants it but she has no appitite either? i have not tried the pea yet, and the tank looks clean, no obviouse food or debris at bottom. test strips show "ideal" and "safe". i did a partial water change about 4 days ago, i'm considering doind the partial water change everyday like you suggested though this is a new tank and new fish, only about 2 1/2 weeks. i'm a beginner.
any other suggestions for me? best food suggestions?
thanks
jenology

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3 years ago#20
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Both ammonia and nitrite should measure zero and not just OK. If you're using the dip strips, they probably do not measure ammonia. For that, you need a kit that uses a test tube, reagent chemical and a color chart. They're about ten dollars in aquarium shops.

Since the aquarium has not been set up very long, it may not have a working nitrogen cycle. That would account for the lack of appetite and lethargy. You may want to click the following link:
http://www.myaquariumclub.com/the-nitrogen-cycle-for- beginners-358.html

It's brief and non technical, and links help me avoid repetition. You're always welcome to ask more questions.

Bettas are not the most active aquarium fish, thus they can go without eating for at least a week. After solving any water quality issues, you may want to try feeding frozen blood worms or adult brine shrimp along with a staple dry food. Frozen food should be well thawed before feeding, and freeze dried foods should be soaked in aquarium water before feeding. Otherwise they can expand in the fish's tummy.

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3 years ago#21
jenology
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johnaurther,
thank you so much for your insight. sushi is doing much better. i did a 20% water change, took out a "browning plant" put sushi & saki on a 4 day fast. i did place one re-hydrated omega one pellet in for 2 minutes a day to see if either would claim it, then removed it if not. i use topfin water conditioner and now i added topfin bacteria supplement to get the nitrogen cycle going. i still only use the test strips (tetra easy strips 6 in 1) water samples show up; 0 for nitrate, and 0 for nitrite, 150 for hardness, 0 for chlorine, 0-20 for alkalinity, and 7.2 for ph. i was concerned about the hard water so i brought in a sample to the shop i got my fish and they compared water samples with the water in their betta cups. they matched up.
like i said i'm a beginner, so i'm so glad i stummbled upon this forum
regarding picture; sushi is top left corner (lavender), saki is bottom center (gold)i just added homes for the two of them, are the homes too much? i can remove one if it's too crowded?
also a quick question about the plants? i already had to remove one due to browning, now it seems like a second is turning? clearly a sign that tank system is still not ideal
i know now that i should have established a healthy tank with plants and ornaments well before introducing the fish. but sadly i did it all at once.
thanks in advance for your help
jenology

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2 years ago#22
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my betta wont eat,he is staying at the bottom and i dont know wats wrong with him ,i have another fish and he looks great? can u help

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2 years ago#23
lol
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btw what is ammonia

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2 years ago#24
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lol wrote:
btw what is ammonia


Uneaten food
Fish poop
Dead tankmates

the list goes on
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2 years ago#25
lol
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i got a testing kit and it said bad nitrate levels,bad alkalinity levels and bad hardness levels what can i do to fix this?

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2 years ago#26
lol
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i don't know if it is because it is winter or if he is just sick

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2 years ago#27
lol
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can someone help my betta died 2 weeks ago and today my other fish died. im really upset but i dont know why they died
can u please help me?

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2 years ago#28
thea
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I'm sorry no one answered your initial question. The answer to fixing bad levels in your tank is to change some water.

It is important to have a regular cleaning schedule. Water changes of 20-25% with temperature matched conditioned water (or more if it is a new tank) and cleaning the gravel 30% once a week.

read this article to find out how to sucessfully keep fish.

http://www.myaquariumclub.com/your-first-aquarium-how- to-make-it-successful-564.html

Also this article which talks about the nitrogen cycle, something that you need to establish before you add fish.
http://www.myaquariumclub.com/the-nitrogen-cycle-for- beginners-358.html

Bettas are tropical fish and need warm water. Your comment about winter make me wonder if you had no heater in the tank. A heater and a filter is essential not optional. Living in cold water stresses tropical fish and makes them suseptible to diseases.

I hope this help and do come back to ask more questions. If someone does not answer after a day or two perhaps you should repost (or better yet post againt to the same post saying "Can anyone help_ -- this boosts your post up the list. After twp days your question may be too far down the list for someone to notice.

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2 years ago#29
keanan
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please help my betta is always at the bottom and cant stop moving to the mirrow in the tank he is blue but when my grand got him at the pet shop he was grey now hes blue she did not know about a betta because its the first time she heard of one im realy worried about it please what can i do and it is struggiling to swim up!

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2 years ago#30
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Male bettas with elaborate fins are not good swimmers and are uncomfortable in turbulent water. The filter needs to be set on its lowest flow rate. You may also want to check water parameters to be sure they are appropriate for the betta, and ammonia and nitrite concentrations read zero.

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